> On 27 Apr 2018, at 20:27, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 4/27/2018 3:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Also false: I use faith to distinguish the truth we suspect and hope for, 
>> and the truth we verify or prove in some theory.  Of course, in “serious 
>> metaphysics”, the term are made more precise. You need already faith to 
>> believe the sun will rise tomorrow, but in the everyday life we just forget 
>> this, and wisely so. Yet in metaphysics we have to be more careful and 
>> precise.
> 
> You forget the faith that distinguishes the falsehoods we hope for from the 
> truths we'd rather not believe but which the evidence points to.


Where?

You might elaborate. I do not understand. If someone believe anything because 
it is hope or wishful thinking, that is blind faith, and has few things to do 
with faith from evidence, usually based on adductive induction, which is 
reasonable by default, but prove nothing. As long as it works, it is the best 
option, but we have to remember that is a theory, a question.

It is the separation of theology from science which makes some people believing 
that in science we can prove things about reality, but that is bad metaphysics. 
We can’t. We cannot even prove that there is a reality, that is what the greeks 
understood in the metaphysical/theological domain. And that is what the 
Churches of all kinds want us to forget.

Bruno



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