From: *Brent Meeker* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

On 6/17/2018 3:51 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
From: *Brent Meeker* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

On 6/17/2018 12:05 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote:

The fact that energy spectra of atoms and the like are discrete does not change the fact that energy eigenvalues are a continuous set of delta functions on the real line. And generally, when one is measuring atomic spectra one determines energies by the deviation occasioned by a prism or diffraction grating. In other words, one actually measures a position on a screen, or a wavelength, which is also a position measurement.

Yes, it's interesting to consider what measurements are /not/ position measurements. We can distinguish colors, so is that a direct energy measurment. And we have calorimeters. Is there a direct measurement of momentum?

It has been suggested that all measurements ultimately boil down to position measurements. Colour vision is the result of distinct receptors in the retina that are at different positions, and the light from distant objects is focused at different positions by the lens in the eye.

But the lens doesn't send one color to one photoreceptor and another color to a different photorecptor. It focuses a spot of light on several photorecptors and the one with the right pigment fires its neuron. So it is energy detection.

But if you use a different position basis the lens will no longer focus point objects to points on the retina.

I don't know enough about the physics of calorimeters as used in HEP to comment here. But if temperature changes are measured by bimetals or strain gauges, position comes into it in an essential way.

Most work by measuring a voltage. But you miss the point. Those position measurements are not essential in the QM sense. They are just changing one classical value into another. Temperature is the first classical level.

Fair enough. I suppose I am just very conscious of the fact that in a different position basis all of this physics will be very different. The classical universe will not look the same at all.

Bruce






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