On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 10:57:06 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 7/4/2018 1:57 AM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: > > > *No. I am asserting that the INTERPRETATION of the superposition of states > is wrong. Although I have asked several times, no one here seems able to > offer a plausible justification for interpreting that a system in a > superposition of states, is physically in all states of the superposition > SIMULTANEOUSLY before the system is measured. If we go back to those little > pointing things, you will see there exists an infinite uncountable set of > basis vectors for any vector in that linear vector space. For quantum > systems, there is no unique basis, and in many cases also infinitely many > bases, So IMO, the interpretation is not justified. AG* > > ***SIMULTANEOUSLY*** was used by EPR in their paper, but that did not have > much meaning (operationally, physically). > > Can we say that the observable, in a superposition state, has a > ***DEFINITE*** value between two measurements? > > No - in general - we cannot say that. > > > It's in some definite state. But it may be a state for which we have no > measurement operator or don't intend to measure; so we say it is in a > superposition, meaning a superposition of the eigenstates we're going to > measure. So it does not have one of the eigenvalues of our measurement. > > Brent >
*So for the radioactive source, the superposed state, Decayed + Undecayed, does NOT imply the system is in both states simultaneously? Same for cat, Alive + Dead? Same for ( (Undecayed, Alive) + (Decayed, Dead) ) for Schroedinger's composite system? If that's the case, why would anyone think these states are in any way paradoxical or contradictory? AG* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
