On 7/31/2018 9:22 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 1:15 AM Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 7/30/2018 9:27 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:21 PM Bruce Kellett
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        From: *Jason Resch* <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 8:33 PM Bruce Kellett
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            From: *Jason Resch* <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>

            You can use "itself" only if this "it" can be in
            multiple locations and heading in different directions.

            That is a property of waves. But you will only ever
            observe a single photon from this wave.....


        Waves/Photons, doesn't matter what you call them.

        Within the quantum computer this wave/photon is
        simultaneously in many different locations/doing many
        different things, performing computations and doing useful
        work using all of its separate superposed instances of
        itself.  Once it's done doing all this work it settles down
        on a final value which we can read. And it will be correct,
        and may have finished an enormous computation in a short
        period of time, if and only if, it did in fact split up and
        do all these independent things simultaneously.

        Or you can view the action of a quantum computer as a simple
        interference effect. Incorrect solutions to the algorithm
        destructively interfere. You don't have to introduce ideas
        such as 'being in different locations and doing different
        things.' It is just simple interference in a wave. (And it is
        all in one world, because interference can only occur within
        the one world.)



    To add some clarity, I would say interference effects of a
    superposed system can only be seen from the vantage point of
    another system which has not interacted with that
    superposed/interfering system.

    I don't know what "seen from a vantage point" means, but you can't
    see anything without interacting with it.



            On that we agree.  But where did those other photons
            come from? How did they get to be in different
            positions going in different directions?

            They aren't.


        How do do you explain the experiment with beam splitters
        and recombining light at a half silvered mirror to
        interfere and only be reflected one way?

        Photons have both wave-like and particle-like properties.
        That is quantum physics.

        So do you accept or reject that this "wave" can be in
        different places simultaneously?

        A wave is not a localized object, so the same wave can extend
        to different locations.


    So then "a photon is not a localized object, so the same photon
    can extend to different locations." -- is this right or wrong?

    Right.  But it's localized in in the same world if it interferes
    with itself; and of course it is never spacelike separate from itself.


I don't understand that last part "it is never spacelike separate from itself", isn't that what beam splitters do, cause spacelike separations of a photon?

You're right.  I misspoke.  The wave representing the photon has spacelike separate parts.

Brent

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