On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 12:21:02 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 7:57:43 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 8/8/2018 12:41 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 4:54:28 PM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 10:16:17 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As long as the universe is not resolved into individual subsystems *(that >>>>> is, no tensor decomposition of the WF)*, there is no measurement >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> IMO, highly doubtful, or minimally outside the domain of quantum >>>>> theory where there is such a thing as measurements, and thus the dualism >>>>> being denied as the conceptual solution of the measurement problem. ( >>>>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0312059.pdf, page 8, bold added). AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> He does say that decoherence theory doesn't solve the measurement >>>> problem, yet he attributes it to decomposing the universe into individual >>>> subsystems. Why would the decomposition have that result? Am I misreading >>>> his position? AG >>>> >>> >> Why would decomposition have* what* result? The result of "decomposing >> the universe into individual subsystems"? The result of "not solving the >> measurement problem"? >> > > *See 2nd paragraph, page 8, A. Resolution into subsystems. AG* >
*Maybe he just means that we have a measurement problem because we're trying to measure something. Could Sherlock have deduced this? AG * > > > Decoherence doesn't solve the measurement problem because it doesn't > quantify the probability; it doesn't even show why there is a probability > measure. If you can show that there is a probability measure, then > Gleason's theorem tells you that it must be the Born rule. > > Brent > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
