On Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 12:21:02 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 7:57:43 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 8/8/2018 12:41 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 4:54:28 PM UTC-5, [email protected] >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, August 4, 2018 at 10:16:17 PM UTC, [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> As long as the universe is not resolved into individual subsystems *(that >>>>> is, no tensor decomposition of the WF)*, there is no measurement >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> IMO, highly doubtful, or minimally outside the domain of quantum >>>>> theory where there is such a thing as measurements, and thus the dualism >>>>> being denied as the conceptual solution of the measurement problem. ( >>>>> https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0312059.pdf, page 8, bold added). AG >>>>> >>>> >>>> He does say that decoherence theory doesn't solve the measurement >>>> problem, yet he attributes it to decomposing the universe into individual >>>> subsystems. Why would the decomposition have that result? Am I misreading >>>> his position? AG >>>> >>> >> Why would decomposition have* what* result? The result of "decomposing >> the universe into individual subsystems"? The result of "not solving the >> measurement problem"? >> > > *See 2nd paragraph, page 8, A. Resolution into subsystems. AG* >
*Maybe he just means that we have a measurement problem because we're trying to measure something. Could Sherlock have deduced this? AG * > > > Decoherence doesn't solve the measurement problem because it doesn't > quantify the probability; it doesn't even show why there is a probability > measure. If you can show that there is a probability measure, then > Gleason's theorem tells you that it must be the Born rule. > > Brent > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
