> On 21 Aug 2018, at 14:22, Peter Sas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Bruno, > > Thanks for your comments. > > It is not my intention to presuppose a physical reality independent of > consciousness. Very simply put, I start with absolute (prereflective) > self-awareness (ASA) as explanatory primitive (indeed, as self-causing), then > I argue that this ASA through its inner recursivity is aware of N and R, and > finally that ASA 'sees' itself reflected in those patterns in the continuum > that mirror its essence, patterns that thus form the mathematical structure > of our universe... So the physical comes out as mathematical structure in the > 'Divine Mind'…
That is cool, but how would formalise the ASA? It looks like starting from the answer. I mean that to assume even just awareness or consciousness is a strong assumption. What you say is still close to Mechanism and/or the universal machine theology, except that here we *bet* on mechanism, and assess the computational theory of mind, then we derive (from some “inner recursively” indeed) the cosmic consciousness (the consciousness of the universal machine before we put some application in it), which is similar to your ASA, and then everything (including the physical universe- emerges constructively from that, making the mechanist hypothesis testable. Consciousness can be quasi axiomatically defined by “true, non doubtable (and thus knowable), non provable, non definable”. Personally I am skeptical of any ontological status for the real numbers. I am not sure that this would be compatible with Mechanism (its usual digital form). Arithmetic needs to be “real” for just assuming Digital Mechanism but Analysis, Physics, even the induction axioms are preferably considered as number’s or machine’s mind tools. Best, Bruno > > Greets, > P. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
