On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 1:03:12 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 12:30:33 AM UTC-5, [email protected] 
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>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 9:28:34 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:53:04 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
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>>>> On 9/29/2018 1:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>>> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 8:07:12 PM UTC, Brent wrote: 
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>>>>> On 9/29/2018 4:34 AM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>>>> A bacteria is already a computer (at least), 
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>>>>> *Really? Then you should be able to identify the entities that store 
>>>>> binary information. And where is the clock which pulses and advances the 
>>>>> instruction pointer? And where is the instruction pointer located? AG*
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>>>>> Not all computers are von Neumann computers.
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>>>> *Maybe he means a parallel processor, but whatever he means should be 
>>>> spelled out explicitly. One can't just assert, as if it's obvious, that a 
>>>> bacteria is already a computer. *
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>>>> Of course it is obvious that a bacterium computes things...like 
>>>> swimming toward nutrients and how to make another bacterium.
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>>>> Brent
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>>> Bacterial computing: a form of natural computing and its applications
>>> - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3971165/
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>>> Bacteria make computers look like pocket calculators
>>> - https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer
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>>> Bacteria Can Now Be Programmed Like a Computer
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>>> https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/43d9en/bacteria-can-now-be-programmed-like-a-computer
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>>> - pt
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>> What is a computer -- what is it -- that bacteria can be seen as being 
>> like? Why bother to define it. Nothing obvious here except sloppy use of 
>> analogies. AG
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> *What is a computer?*
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> A computer is a device that executes programs.
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> If we can synthesize bacteria that execute programs (which we can do), 
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> - pt
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*Scientists have built the most complex biomolecular computer yet and 
stored a movie*
https://spectrum.ieee.org/biomedical/devices/biocomputer-and-memory-built-inside-living-bacteria
 



- pt 

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