[Lawrence Crowell]
1. It would be a big stretch to say there is some quantum consciousness at work
here so that the ψ wave is somehow manifesting itself in these mystical
practices.
2. There is a sort of similarity in patterns of thought or mental realizations
with Eastern mystical traditions.
3. Eastern spiritual basis is similar to quantum mechanics, in that one must
escape the suffering of this world through meditative practice that penetrates
beyond the separating dualisms of this world.
4. Eastern Civilization abandoned the idea of gods enacting laws of nature.
5. The merging of mathematically verifiable Hellenic categorical axioms with
Hebrew idea of Kodesh (separation) occurred with Christianity. After the dark
age, western intellectual progress resurged later on.
[Philip Benjamin]
This post is a unwarranted criticism and apology for Western Civilization as
“unscientific”—or not ‘Quantum-conforming’-- and an unqualified endorsement and
un-evidential apologetics for Eastern Civilization as Quantum-conforming and
therefore scientific. What the WAMP physicists (defined elsewhere below) do not
acknowledge is that the “Copenpagan” Interpretation is irrational, unscientific
and contrary to the law of noncontradiction. The de Broglie wave-likeness was
unnecessarily
changed to Bohr’s waviness to accommodate Bohr’s Tao (Yin/Yang of opposites).
[His wealthy Jewish mother had brought him up as a Lutheran]. Thus the rational
AS IF logic was replaced with the irrational BOTH & fallacy; so much so that
Einstein referred to Bohr as a “Talmudic philosopher”. While Buddhism with its
dogma of Rebirth (an offspring of Hinduism with its Reincarnation) and its
offshoots reject the Vedic 330 million Hindu gods (and also the caste system),
both practice meditations and Yogasanas to achieve Moksha or Nirvana.
Scientific advancement and material prosperity require acceptance and control
or “dominion” of the reality of the physical world around. Science did not and
could not have originated in an ethos governed by Maya or mysticism or
superstitions. In the West even the Resurrection is a physical reality that
changed the almost 3-millennia old rigid Seventh Day Worship of the 100% Jewish
Christian congregations of the early First Century to the First Day worship of
the Week, even in the Temple premises (Acts 20:7 & Acts 2:46).
According to a Quora article: “The only reasonable conclusion is
that Islam indeed caused what was known as the Dark Ages”.
https://www.quora.com/Did-Islam-cause-the-Dark-Ages. When Jihadism closed for
the West all land routes to the East, it required the “quickened” or
“regenerated” spirits of Western explorers to go into the unknown waters of the
oceans for sea routes and in the process discover new continents and establish
colonies.
This Crowell-post only points to the consequences of the deep
divisions in Americas and Europe which are irreparable and irrevocable—not just
on abortions and LGBT “court-fiats”, barring the very unlikely Third Awakening
in America. An Awakening (the Prophetic or Quakers’ Quickening) is antithetical
to the “Yogic trance” for “consciousness control”, which the Bible condemns as
“evil spirit directed” (superstitions of Eastern customs, Isaiah 2: 6). The
Kavanaugh controversy is only the tip of the iceberg.
Evidentialist
Philip Benjamin
Note: The self-righteous, grubering, intolerant WAMP-the-Ingrate = Western
Acade-Media Paganism (parody of WASP). Academedia (acade-media): The monstrous
double headed hybrid of a small minority of all academics including seminarians
and a large majority of all media including the Hollywood, with
no-question-asked Marxist-like authoritarianism as their modus operandi. Based
on the works of Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Ben Stein, Victor Mordecai, ex-Marxist
David Horowitz
Upon decoupling, the unenergized (unregenerated), non-entropic bio dark-matter
bodies co-created at the moment of conception will be lost in their abodes of
the dark-matter realms (black holes), by their own willful choice. Adapted from
"Ten Implications of Bio Dark-Matter Chemistry"(ResearchGate) and "Spiritual
Body or Physical Spirit" Sunbury Press, by Philip Benjamin PhD MSc MA
A Caveat: WAMP is no match for Jihadism which brutalized India for one thousand
years, Spain and other European nations for 300-800 years, all of Middle East,
a chunk of East Europe and inhumanly vanquished the Christian Byzantines etc.
Had it not been for the British Empire (the vastest, greatest, mightiest,
noblest ever--not perfect), the whole world would have been under Jihadism by
now and the self-righteous grubering WAMP-the-Ingrate would never ever have
seen the light of day.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Lawrence Crowell Tuesday, October 02, 2018 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: Tao and Physics
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 3:39:17 AM UTC-5,
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
My friend is not physicist I think she understand physics on popular-science
level same as me. Few days ago she told me that contemporary physics show
something about what ancient taoists sages was talking - Tao - unnamed,
undivided reality. I was not able to argue with her becourse of my low
understanding of physics but I make research and there are in fact some
physicist who endorse this view. Some od them talk about tao, others talk about
sunyata (buddhists notion) but maybe these are just theirs personal opinion and
mixing it with physics is unvalid?
Fritz Capra wrote a book titled The Tao of Physics. I read it in high school
and again as an undergraduate. This book is probably one of the most reviled
book by physicists, though a few think it is good. I am a bit neutral. Capra
makes comparisons between nonlocality of quantum mechanics and the Taoist idea
that a vessel holding nothing is a paradox by assigning the word nothing to the
emptiness in the vessel. In some ways the quantum wave or state is something
that defies standard existential categories.
Western civilization progressed along the lines of defining separate
categorical rules to different entities and using the resulting different
categorical rules in logical constructions. This has its origins in the
Hellenic notions of mathematical proof based on axioms and the Hebrew idea of
Kodesh or separation. The merging of Hellenic and Hebrew constructions occurred
with Christianity, where while this did put a dark age blanket on western
intellectual progress it did pave the wave for a resurgence later on. A reading
of Immanuel Kant reveals the pains he took in laying down categories.
Eastern civilization progressed along different lines. For one they abandoned
the idea of there existing Gods and by extension the concept of there being
laws or rules that Gods enforce. Plato wrote down the argument by Socrates and
Euthyphro on this point that is worth reading. Eastern spiritual basis is that
one must escape the suffering of this world through meditative practice that
penetrates beyond the separating dualisms of this world. This does have some
similarities to quantum mechanics that has nonlocal properties that defy the
sort of categories in Western thought and are more similar to Eastern thought.
Where I think things go awry with the idea of Taoism or Buddhism as quantum
physics is when people say they are the same. We could just as well take the
dialectics of Hegel and just say that Hegel codified quantum principles, and
that Hegel was a quantum thinker. What I think is occurring in these instances
is a sort of similarity in patterns of thought or mental realizations with
Eastern mystical traditions, and for that matter Hegel as well, with quantum
theory. It would be a big stretch to say there is some quantum consciousness at
work here so that the ψ wave is somehow manifesting itself in these mystical
practices. Bohr maintained that quantum physics must have a classical ordinary
language description, and this description does illustrate how the quantum wave
is something we can't put an objective finger on. By a similar pattern of
thinking the idea of Taoism is similar. However, Lao Tse is not likely to have
had some quantum ψ wave percolate into his brain or consciousness as the basis
for the Tao.
LC .
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