On Tuesday, October 30, 2018 at 4:55:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 29 Oct 2018, at 23:48, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> On Monday, October 29, 2018 at 5:15:28 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 5:21 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> >*If you try to traverse a unit distance in infinite steps such as 1/2, 
>>> 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 and so forth, the sum converges to 1, but you will never 
>>> traverse the distance even though the sum converges.*
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>> Never? If what you say is true then calculus is wrong. I don't think 
>> calculus is wrong.
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>> John K Clark 
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> To a mathematical *ultrafinitist* [ 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrafinitism ], the standard calculus is 
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> One can salvage some version of standard calculus, but a lot of care is 
> needed to never define any process that assumes a completed infinite number 
> of steps.
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> That is finitism. Ultrafinitisme asks for a bigger natural numbers. It is 
> close to nonsense for me, but finitism accept the potential infinite and 
> reject actual infinite. Ultra-finitism rejets both potential and actual 
> infinite.
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> With mechanism, the ontology is finitists (not ultra-finitist), and the 
> many phenomenologies is unbodundably big, beyond the infinite, somehow.
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> Bruno
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In any case, doing all of math on computers *here on Earth* makes 
one explicitly an ultrafinitist  because there are only a limited, finite 
number of bits one can ever have available!

- pt

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