On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 8:13:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
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> On 2/22/2019 6:04 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
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> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 4:55:41 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: 
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>> On 2/22/2019 2:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>> Gravitons, as quanta of the metric field, are already relativistic 
>>> particles and covariant.
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>> *I thought it's the equations of motion for the particular force, not the 
>> mediating particles, that must be covariant. On a related topic for this 
>> thread, where does GR depart from Mach's principle? That is, what did 
>> Einstein implicitly (or explicitly) deny about Mach's principle? TIA, AG *
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>> Einstein thought he would develop a theory that satisfied Mach's 
>> principle, but as it turned out GR doesn't. For example the metric of 
>> spacetime is a dynamic field and transmit momentum and energy, as shown by 
>> LIGO.  Mach's idea of spacetime as purely a relation between material 
>> events couldn't do that.
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>> Brent
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> *Were you inferring covariance simply because the mediating particle for 
> gravity, the graviton, travels at the SoL? *
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> GR is a covariant theory.  So it's quanta, gravitons, are covariant.
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*I could be mistaken, but I see gravitons as being part of a distinct 
theory of gravity, which might give the same results as GR. In GR, the 
paths are determined by geometry in the absence of forces, not by mediating 
particles. AG *

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> *I thought it's the equations of motion for the particular force, not the 
> mediating particles, that must be covariant.  Do we have equations of 
> motions for strong and weak forces, which are covariant? AG*
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> Forces are mediated by exchange of bosons.  Those bosons appear in the 
> Standard Model Lagrangian, from which equations of motion can be derived.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_formulation_of_the_Standard_Model
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> Brent
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