On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 7:24:11 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 1 Mar 2019, at 20:42, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 8:49:54 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Very interesting and rather compelling. OK. But to solve the mind body >> problem, both space and time must be recovered from self-reference, itself >> deducible from the little theory above. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> > I still think this semantics of qualia is ultimately "joy eliminativism" > (a great term introduced here by someone before). > > > > Why do you think that. N the contrary, Mechanism makes the notion of > person, including its first person soul, central in metaphysics, but also > quite opposed to anthropomorphism, and panphsyicsime. It is more a > Turing-universal-machine-centered points of view foundations. All universal > number are born equal, if I may say. >
If you want folks to relate to your posts more, stop mixing up theory with reality. It's hardly credible to attack the world for doing so in some homegrown, undeveloped primary physicalist sense, while every post of yours includes the usual anthropomorphisms. It's like saying you understand birth because of Kleene's recursion theorems and believing it, while admonishing others for believing in their personal stuff. In this sense, you don't see yourself as an equal to others, if I may say, and so why would universal numbers be stupid enough to believe the same? > > You are the one introducing a reductionism of person and machine. You are > the one depriving them of joy, apparently. > Says the guy that's quoting biblical scripture and proclaiming the "theology of the machines or some equivalent universal system, which cannot be stated!" over and over. > I’m afraid you are the one who will be angry if your daughter decide to > marry a man-machine, like a guy having said yes already to the doctor. If > you don’t them the right to vote, no doubt that they will feel less joy … > That's quite a jump. So what if somebody were angry that their offspring feels like they married their fridge because in feeding that high flying fridge god everyday, they feed themselves? Because in a way, a fridge is a more awesome description of ourselves: a mechanistic process that ends in coolness with nobody dying at least for now! And maybe somebody says no to a doctor, while they're angry at the wedding between their offspring and the fridge, even if they don't like saying yes to doctors. Or somebody says yes to a doctor occasionally but is OK with a fridge marrying into the family, as it will keep volatility low at the obligatory family meets. Instead of long histories of arguments on politics or religion, people can bring quality foods to be preserved instead. Win-win for everybody! For yours truly, "avoiding less joy" is a sure way to not enjoy ourselves. But sure, people have incredibly fun times at voting and registration. Whenever one of my friends feels down, I just tell them that we could always go vote... on something, and immediately everybody's day becomes the best in their lives, which is what yours is about to become, if you just went and voted! Participatory politics only works when people show the ability to handle it. Otherwise it's just hyper conservative agenda doing what it always does by muddying the waters and distracting everybody. And people like that at times, apparently. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
