On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 2:41:13 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:18 PM <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > >>We can calculate the wave function exactly but the wave function does >>> not determine exactly how matter will behave. >>> >> >> *That's precisely my point. If we can't determine exactly how matter will >> behave, how can we go back in time to reconstruct the original state for >> single trials. If we can't do that, then QM inherently contradicts >> determinism, so why make an issue about BH information loss? AG* >> > > > Schrodinger says If you know what the wave function of a particle is now > then you can predict what the wave function will be tomorrow and determine > what it was yesterday. Even more important Schrodinger says his function is > unitary, that means probabilities are conserved, but that can only happen > if information is conserved. > > For the very idea of probability to make sense everything must add up to > exactly 1; if you calculate there is a 70% chance an electron will curve to > the left and a 40% chance it will curve to the right then you'll know > you've calculated nonsense. Black Holes seem to destroy information but if > so then the Schrodinger Wave Function can't be unitary and thus is total > nonsense, but it has been tested many many times and it always works so > it can't be total nonsense. That is the paradox. >
*How is information preserved in usual QM? If a particle bends in one direction, and you play the wf back in time, how do you recover a particle which will bend in the same direction, exactly? AG * > > If all this confused you welcome to the club, nobody knows how to resolve > this paradox but when they do they'll probably resolve the conflict between > General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics too. > > John K Clark > > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
