On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 11:06:10 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 23 Apr 2019, at 13:39, agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 4:00:26 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 23:14, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 2:53:00 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 04:08, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> On Thursday, April 18, 2019 at 6:53:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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>>>> Sorry, I don't remember what, if anything, I intended to text.
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>>>> I'm not expert on how Einstein arrived at his famous field equations.  
>>>> I know that he insisted on them being tensor equations so that they would 
>>>> have the same form in all coordinate systems.  That may sound like a 
>>>> mathematical technicality, but it is really to ensure that the things in 
>>>> the equation, the tensors, could have a physical interpretation.  He also 
>>>> limited himself to second order differentials, probably as a matter of 
>>>> simplicity.  And he excluded torsion, but I don't know why.  And of course 
>>>> he knew it had to reproduce Newtonian gravity in the weak/slow limit.
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>>>> Brent
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>>> Here's a link which might help;
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>>>  https://arxiv.org/pdf/1608.05752.pdf
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>>> Yes. That is helpful.
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>>> The following (long!) video can also help (well, it did help me)
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>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foRPKAKZWx8
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>>> Bruno
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>> *I've been viewing this video. I don't see how he established that the 
>> metric tensor is a correction for curved spacetime. AG *
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>> ds^2 = dx^2 + dy^2 is Pythagorus theorem, in the plane. The “g_mu,nu” are 
>> the coefficients needed to ensure un non-planner (curved) metric, and they 
>> can be use to define the curvature.
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>> Bruno 
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> *Thanks for your time, but I don't think you have a clue what the issues 
> are here. And, as a alleged expert in logic, it puts your other claims in 
> jeopardy. Firstly, in the video you offered, the presenter has a Kronecker 
> delta as the leading multiplicative factor in his definition of the Metric 
> Tensor, which implies all off diagonal terms are zero. And even if that 
> term were omitted, your reference to Pythagorus leaves much to be desired. 
> In SR we're dealing with a 4 dim space with the Lorentz metric, not a 
> Euclidean space where the Pythagorean theorem applies. How does a diagonal 
> signature of -1,1,1,1 imply flat space? Why would non-zero off diagonal 
> elements have anything to do with a departure from flat space under 
> Lorentz's metric? AG *
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> Oops sorry. Since long I do relativity only in its euclidian form, through 
> the transformation t' := it. (I being the square root of -1). This makes 
> Minkowski euclidean again. I should have mentioned this.
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> Bruno
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*How does it make Minkowski euclidean if you're not dealing with spacetime. 
Euclidean and departures from flat require real coordinates. AG*

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