Givens?  You have proof of reincarnation and telepathy?  This is news to
me. Over a thousand people took James Randi's million dollar challenge
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge> but
nobody got the money. Would love to see your evidence.

On the other hand, quite a few counter-intuitive things have been proven
beyond a shadow of a doubt through the scientific enterprise. Gravitational
lensing
<https://www.thoughtco.com/introduction-to-gravitational-lensing-4153504>
is an example of something that proves the highly counter-intuitive theory
of general relativity. According to you though, general relativity can be
dismissed, but reincarnation cannot. Does evidence count for anything?

Terren

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:23 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Of course they are givens. It is not my fault that you cherry-pick what to
> believe in, against all evidence.
>
> On Sunday, 5 May 2019 18:58:10 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote:
>>
>> But reincarnation and telepathy are just givens, to be accepted as real
>> with no caveats whatsoever.
>>
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