On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote:
How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the
case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are
more easily explainable, in the sense that consciousness
being non-local, it can indeed create cases in which
spatially and temporally separated consciousness can
communicate. But in the case of local AIs, how can such
phenomena have any chance of being explained ?
I doubt telepathy, but I do have a low-level precognition thought
experiment handy:
In the typical EPR experiment setup, particle A goes one way, and
particle B goes another way, to detector-A and detector-B
respectively.
Now particles A and B are "entangled" (quantum-mechanically) , so
that detector-B settings will stochastically influence what
detector-A detects (and vice versa).
Now suppose detector-A is placed in a person's brain (not far
away) in such a way that particle A (via detector-A) influences a
neuron or two, but detector-B is light years (traveling distance)
away. Can detector-B settings made years in the future influence
what the person's neurons do in the present?
Why make it impossible to perform by placing B far away? The only
relevant condition is whether Bob's setting was made space-like or
time-like relative to Alice's. And that kind of experiment has
been done. There is correlation per QM.
Brent
Huh? I claimed it was possible to perform. Not impossible to perform.
You claim we can send Bob light years away to perform this experiment??
How?
And why bother since Aspect has already done it with Bob selecting his
setting space-like relative to Alice's? The case in which Bob's setting
is done in Alice's future light cone has been done too, but isn't very
interesting since Alice could then influence Bob's setting. Are you
testing whether Alice's neurons will agree with Alice's instruments? I
don't see what you're getting at?
Brent
@philipthrift
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