> On 17 May 2019, at 02:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5/11/2019 11:59 PM, smitra wrote: >> On 11-05-2019 22:31, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: >>> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of >>> consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily >>> explainable, in the sense that consciousness being non-local, it can >>> indeed create cases in which spatially and temporally separated >>> consciousness can communicate. But in the case of local AIs, how can >>> such phenomena have any chance of being explained ? >> >> We don't live in the real world, rather in the virtual world generated by >> our brains. Illusions such as optical illusions: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTpvDTWurwg >> >> auditory illusions such as McGurk effect: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lN8vWm3m0 >> >> clearly demonstrates this. The virtual representation of the real world >> isn't perfect; because we experience the former directly and can only infer >> something about the latter indirectly, this means that we can sometimes >> experience things that seem to violate the laws of physics. > > Which in turn means we do access the real world,
OK. Then the question is what is the nature of the real world. A God, Arithmetic, Matter, etc. > otherwise we wouldn't know that some impressions are illusions. Whether we > "live in it" or not is then a matter of degree. A degree inconsistent with a > lot of woo-woo. We necessarily live in it, or with it. But we cannot assert we know it. We can propose theories, and test them. For example, with the theory “mechanism”, we live in arithmetic, and the physical reality emerge “naturally” in the first person (hopefully the plural one) way. Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1d0d20c2-1735-19a3-49e4-a8bcab98e733%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/53AAF2D5-C555-4654-924D-02E746C3677F%40ulb.ac.be.
