> On 21 May 2019, at 10:28, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Derive red from there.
> 
> On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 10:18:01 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>  We accept the arithmetical reality (we postulate “2+2=4” & Co., and derive 
> experience and ideas from there.


They appear in a “perceptual semantics” that Bell (the logician, not the 
physicist) has proposed for a special quantum logic. They belong to the logic 
of the material modes of the self (defined with a mathematical apparatus G*, 
often called logic of self-reference) in the communicable part. It shows that a 
s-certain type of machine will be able to describes what it sees, name colours, 
and be able to understand that their qualia seems not rationally communicable. 
The machine might see  the red coloration more like a “green” perhaps, but of 
course, she will learn to call it green.

You need to read some book in logic to grasp fully what G* is all about. But 
that is the answer in a nutshell.

Bruno





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