On 5/22/2019 9:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 21 May 2019, at 20:15, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The Higgs boson was produced very much "at will".  In fact a lot willing went into it.

You mean the Englert-Brout-Higgs boson?

Englert did not want it. He was disappointed. He learned nothing. He said it on TV when he got the prize.

He was used to assume the Standard Model of the particles.

He would have preferred something new. Like a refutation, a surprise, enforcing the change of mind, something needed to progress.

All physicists would have preferred something new.  You don't make progress just by confirmation.

Brent


So, if you tell me that the Higgs boson appeared by the psychic will of a conspiracy of telepath physicists, (with some help of the engineers, I guess), I don’ think Englert participated in this.

Bruno





Brent

On 5/21/2019 1:09 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
Telepathy doesn't happen necessarily at will. It only happens when certain conditions are being met. Asking someone to produce telepathy on the spot is like asking him to produce Higgs Boson on the spot. So let's do like this: you produce me a Higgs Boson, and I'll produce you a telepathy. If you can't do it, it means Higgs Bosons don't exist. They are just anecdots from a bunch of gurus at CERN.
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