[Philip Benjamin]
     Telmo Menezes wrote: “I went to Wikipedia to look for a definition of 
"liberal":…I am a liberal… what do you oppose…?”  End of quote.
                  Wikipedia may be sometimes a source for past (not current) 
references.  Classical Liberalism has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Modern 
Liberalism. For a long time there was no difference between Liberals and 
Conservatives in America, except for their constituencies. Businessmen, 
including family farm owners and Professionals were Conservatives. Labor, Trade 
Unions farm workers,  and Southern plantation owners,  were Liberals.
The best government was the least government for most of Americans who also 
generally believed that human nature is essentially fallen and corrupt (Adamic 
insubordination and the imputed/encoded Sentence of Death) requiring certain 
minimum necessary governmental interventions.
            That is all 180 degrees changed today (References below). Modern 
Liberals are Marxist, Socialist, Fascist, Humanist Progressive PAGANS. They 
have fully infiltrated the academia, especially so after the collapse of the 
Marxist Soviet Empire, also most of the businesses and even some farms. The 
Progressives have complete sway over the Trade Unions (they actually own them), 
the Media,  most publishing industries including many once-Christian 
publishers, and the Deep State. They ardently believe that human nature is 
essentially good and greater the government, greater is the good. Tolerance 
necessarily means exclusion of all real or imagined opposition. Silencing or 
forcefully excluding the opponents by all means legal and illegal is their 
indispensable stratagem, because it is self-evident for them that “the end 
justifies the means”. Insults and intimidations are their usual weapons and 
they make no bones about it (typical examples are the writings and 
pronouncements of evolutionist biologist Richard Dawkins).  Everything they 
believe is the TRUTH and they are ALWAYS RIGHT.  Group-think is all they know. 
The only critical-thinking allowed is “labelling” exhibited by vituperations 
and mockings. Anti-Christian and anti-Bible fanaticism is their acceptable 
short-cuts to “brilliance”.
          Goodbye to Liberalism
Evidentialist
Philip Benjamin
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/difference-between-classical-modern-liberalism-c9b2cef60fcef0ef
 
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-modern-and-classical-liberalism-without-using-too-much-philosophical-jargon
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Telmo Menezes
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 12:21 PM
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, at 16:59, Philip Benjamin wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]

Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America haters—i.e. 
the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Humanist PAGANS


I went to Wikipedia to look for a definition of "liberal":

"Liberalism is a 
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 based on 
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 consent of the 
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 Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of 
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 (free 
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 gender 
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 racial 
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According to this definition, I am a liberal. If you agree with this 
definition, what is the part of liberalism you oppose? If you disagree with the 
definition, then what am I?

Telmo.


or WAMP-the-Ingrate, who hate the very foundations and founders of this 
Republic. Over 62 million adults, bona fide American citizens, surely KNEW that 
this was the last chance for America to be America!! It was a question of now 
or never. The truth will be out if the present Dept. of Justice has the guts to 
go ahead with an impartial investigation into the politico-deep state- media 
usurpation of the American government at all levels from the City/County and 
State to the Non-sovereign Federation of the Sovereign States of this 
Constitutional Republic of Lex Rex and not Rex Lex 
(http://constitution.org/sr/lexrex.htm). See Lex Rex of Samuel Rutherford 
(Presbyterian Minister). Also its high recommendation by the “Prince of 
Preacher” Spurgeon (Baptist Minister). American Constitution is an extension of 
various Church Constitutions. The Colonies already had all institutions of 
Freedom in place after the historical and historic First Great Awakening. No 
other people EVER in the annals of history did or could have ever come up with 
any such ideas. The Magna Carta (of “We the Nobles”), the Mayflower Compact and 
the Puritan Mission Statement to American Indians come close. Ignorance coupled 
with willful disrespect for one’s heritage as facilitated on the WAMP-erial 
campuses is a sure path to victory for Socialist-Marxist-Progressive PAGANISM 
of the types of Nordic pagan Hitler, Slavic pagan Stalin, Caucasian pagan 
Mussolini etc., or of the type of Celtic pagan French anarchists. 
https://www.wnd.com/2019/02/americas-dangerous-historical-ignorance/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2F2019%2F02%2Famericas-dangerous-historical-ignorance%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08ace24ad19a4ca0a67c08d6e6b5a358%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636950065130492575&sdata=4QBC2aEWYjIz1oa44yG54ecHS618BCSdjIxHdMi9s28%3D&reserved=0>

Compare it wit 
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Philip Benjamin

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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of John Clark
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 8:11 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity



On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:16 AM Bruno Marchal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


>> From the Catholic Encyclopedia, volume 7 page 792:
"The son of God is omniscient and omnipotent knowing history in advance and 
being able to control its course”.



> The Pope Jean-Paul 2 made explicit that all statement of that kind are 
> parabola and should never been taken literally.



That's the exact same excuse Trump suporters use when they to try to explain 
away his many many lies.



> Of course, that is debated by some catholic, bu I have still never met a 
> christian who believe in the anything as naive.



You sure have not met many Christians!  I have never met a Christian who didn't 
believe something exactly that naive. I concede there are a few that have 
abandoned the idea of Christianity but not the ASCII sequence 
C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n-i-t-y, although I have not personally met them.



> You might read the book by Jean Trouillard or Paul Valadier. You might change 
> your mind on this, but perhaps you don’t want to change your mind.



I don't want to read their books because I see little point in reading a book 
written by someone who knows even less about how the world really works than I 
do. Life is too short to read every book ever written so one must use judgement 
and be selective.



 John K Clark .

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