Why is this list attracting nut-wads? Here we evidently have a political crackpot. Politics is largely for stupid people. Philip Benjamin is clearly parroting conspiracy narratives, which are the products of the right wing media, though the left does a bit of it, where liberalism is a big communistic conspiracy to destroy freedom and to contaminate our precious bodily fluids.
Solzhenitsyn wrote in *One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich*, how the old guard Bolsheviks would parrot the words of Marx and Lenin, as if they were teletype machines, or in more modern language a computer running a sound file. People who utter phrases from the Bible with known chapter and verse are similar. There is a tendency for people to become meme-machines who do little more than parrot off various ideological or belief scripts. My opinion of political people, whether on the left or right is they fall into this trap of thinking. It is not really thinking, it is thinking you are thinking. Who really gives a damned over nuances over classical vs more modern liberalism? In the end both, classic in the day it was formed, favors a liberality of mind, the open exchange of thought and ideals and the removal of oppression. Modern liberalsim is more complicated with economic issues, where let us face it in the time from Locke and Thomas Paine we have figured out a few things. One of them is that economics or capitalism is not able to maintain a stable currency, maintain employment at full levels and to provide the free uninhibited flow of capital. There are a number of these trilemmas in economics, and more modern liberalism is about regulating capitalism because it has these inherent instabilities. You may agree or disagree with these policies, but these are not conspiracies to enslave us. These conspiracy narratives are forged by right winged bloviators at Faux Gnus and Clear-Channel radio and so forth. As a rule, people who parrot these sort of things, such as those fallen Bolshiviks in the gulags Solzhenitsyn pointed out, are not really that inherently intelligent. As Donald t'Rump said, "I am like and intelligent person," which really means he wants to look smart, but he is really dumb as donkey crap. LC On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 2:14:50 PM UTC-5, medinuclear wrote: > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Telmo Menezes wrote: “I went to Wikipedia to look for a definition > of "liberal":…I am a liberal… what do you oppose…?” *End of quote*. > > Wikipedia may be sometimes a source for past (not > current) references. Classical Liberalism has NOTHING whatsoever to do > with Modern Liberalism. For a long time there was no difference between > Liberals and Conservatives in America, except for their constituencies. > Businessmen, including family farm owners and Professionals were > Conservatives. Labor, Trade Unions farm workers, and Southern plantation > owners, were Liberals. > > The best government was the least government for most of Americans who > also generally believed that human nature is essentially fallen and corrupt > (Adamic insubordination and the *imputed*/*encoded* Sentence of Death) > requiring certain *minimum* necessary governmental interventions. > > That is all 180 degrees changed today (*References below*). > Modern Liberals are Marxist, Socialist, Fascist, Humanist Progressive > PAGANS. They have fully infiltrated the academia, especially so after the > collapse of the Marxist Soviet Empire, also most of the businesses and even > some farms. The Progressives have complete sway over the Trade Unions (they > actually own them), the Media, most publishing industries including many > once-Christian publishers, and the Deep State. They ardently believe that > human nature is essentially good and greater the government, greater is the > good. Tolerance necessarily means exclusion of all real or imagined > opposition. Silencing or forcefully excluding the opponents by all means > legal and illegal is their indispensable stratagem, because it is > self-evident for them that “the end justifies the means”. Insults and > intimidations are their usual weapons and they make no bones about it > (typical examples are the writings and pronouncements of evolutionist > biologist Richard Dawkins). Everything they believe is the TRUTH and they > are ALWAYS RIGHT. *Group-think* is all they know. The only > *critical-thinking* allowed is “labelling” exhibited by vituperations and > mockings. Anti-Christian and anti-Bible fanaticism is their acceptable > short-cuts to “brilliance”. > > Goodbye to Liberalism > > *Evidentialist* > > *Philip Benjamin* > > > https://www.reference.com/government-politics/difference-between-classical-modern-liberalism-c9b2cef60fcef0ef > > https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-modern-and-classical-liberalism-without-using-too-much-philosophical-jargon > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> < > [email protected] <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes > *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2019 12:21 PM > *To:* Everything List <[email protected] <javascript:>> > *Subject:* Re: Trump Supporters? > > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, at 16:59, Philip Benjamin wrote: > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America > haters—i.e. the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Humanist > PAGANS > > > > > > I went to Wikipedia to look for a definition of "liberal": > > > > *"Liberalism* is a political > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPolitical_philosophy&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08ace24ad19a4ca0a67c08d6e6b5a358%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636950065130302414&sdata=g29AG%2BD%2Fln9XSfqyWrYDbH7%2FfPOaGd%2FPtL6dlGIz0xk%3D&reserved=0> > > and moral philosophy > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMoral_philosophy&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08ace24ad19a4ca0a67c08d6e6b5a358%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636950065130312419&sdata=rAgMRefgknamhxcc1UuL2fN3D4ukuukuuZhaEOPEg%2Bo%3D&reserved=0> > > based on liberty > 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liberal. If you agree with this > definition, what is the part of liberalism you oppose? If you disagree with > the definition, then what am I? > > > > Telmo. > > > > > > or *WAMP-the-Ingrate*, who hate the very foundations and founders of this > Republic. Over 62 million adults, bona fide American citizens, surely KNEW > that this was the last chance for America to be America!! It was a question > of now or never. The truth will be out if the present Dept. of Justice has > the guts to go ahead with an impartial investigation into the > *politico*-*deep > state- media* usurpation of the American government at all levels from > the City/County and State to the *Non-sovereign Federation of the > Sovereign States* of this Constitutional Republic of Lex Rex and not Rex > Lex (http://constitution.org/sr/lexrex.htm). See *Lex Rex* of Samuel > Rutherford (Presbyterian Minister). Also its high recommendation by the > “Prince of Preacher” Spurgeon (Baptist Minister). American Constitution is > an extension of various Church Constitutions. The Colonies already had all > institutions of Freedom in place after the historical and historic *First > Great Awakening*. No other people EVER in the annals of history did or > could have ever come up with any such ideas. *The Magna Carta* (*of “We > the Nobles*”), the *Mayflower Compact* and the Puritan *Mission Statement > to American Indians* come close. Ignorance coupled with willful > disrespect for one’s heritage as facilitated on the WAMP-erial campuses is > a sure path to victory for Socialist-Marxist-Progressive PAGANISM of the > types of Nordic pagan Hitler, Slavic pagan Stalin, Caucasian pagan > Mussolini etc., or of the type of Celtic pagan French anarchists. > https://www.wnd.com/2019/02/americas-dangerous-historical-ignorance/ > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2F2019%2F02%2Famericas-dangerous-historical-ignorance%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08ace24ad19a4ca0a67c08d6e6b5a358%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636950065130492575&sdata=4QBC2aEWYjIz1oa44yG54ecHS618BCSdjIxHdMi9s28%3D&reserved=0> > > > > Compare it wit > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ignorance-of-history-is-no-joke/ > <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fignorance-of-history-is-no-joke%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C08ace24ad19a4ca0a67c08d6e6b5a358%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636950065130502580&sdata=pWUTGkaAOfGxcMr%2F2decfjs6j%2FWBJmkCgssYZQwVijQ%3D&reserved=0> > > *Philip Benjamin* > > *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* > > *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> < > [email protected] <javascript:>> *On Behalf Of *John Clark > > *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2019 8:11 AM > > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:> > > *Subject:* Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity > > > > On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 3:16 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > >> From the Catholic Encyclopedia, volume 7 page 792: > > *"The son of **God is **omniscient* *and* *omnipotent** knowing history > in advance and being able to control its course**”.* > > > > *> **The Pope Jean-Paul 2 made explicit that all statement of that kind > are parabola and should never been taken literally.* > > > > That's the exact same excuse Trump suporters use when they to try to > explain away his many many lies. > > > > > *Of course, that is debated by some catholic, bu I have still never met > a christian who believe in the anything as naive.* > > > > You sure have not met many Christians! I have never met a Christian who > didn't believe something exactly that naive. I concede there are a few that > have abandoned the idea of Christianity but not the ASCII sequence > C-h-r-i-s-t-i-a-n-i-t-y, although > I have not personally met them. > > > > *> **You might read the book by Jean Trouillard or Paul Valadier. You > might change your mind on this, but perhaps you don’t want to change your > mind.* > > > > I don't want to read their books because I see little point in reading a > book written by someone who knows even less about how the world really > works than I do. Life is too short to read every book ever written so one > must use judgement and be selective. > > > > John K Clark . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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