On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:03 PM Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 2:53:59 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:36 PM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Friday, June 14, 2019 at 2:00:01 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 4:33 PM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 7:20:27 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As it currently stands, the formalism of QM does not allow the >>>>>> singlet state to depend on the final polariser settings, so standard QM >>>>>> is >>>>>> inconsistent with retrocausality. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Bruce >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is a "the" formalism of QM? It's "the" one the LORD God wrote >>>>> into Stone Tablets on Mount Sinai I suppose you are referring to. The one >>>>> and only. Why are so many physicists strict religious fundamentalists? >>>>> >>>>> I don't see this in: >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's in there if you know how to look! Histories lead from the past to >>>> the future -- that is how amplitudes are calculated. This explicitly rules >>>> out retrocausality. >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>> >>> >>> But the reflective path integral is consistent with the path integral; >>> >> >> No it is not. It it gives a different answer for the same physical >> situation, so it can't be consistent. >> >> >>> there are both futures and histories. So it's consistent with, not ruled >>> out. >>> >> >> It is inconsistent with standard quantum mechanics, in any formalism. So >> in so far as QM is correct, retrocausality is ruled out -- it is a >> different theory. >> >> Incidentally, how would you write down the amplitude for the singlet >> state made up of two spin half particles? >> >> Bruce >> > > > > You just write down a pair: a state and its CPT-mirror state. > OK. You do that and show how it depends on the future polarizer settings in a way that gives comprehensible dynamics. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLTWRnQRkvavtY-jfDDj4wRpgJDezjpcmHz_vp%3DCK282gQ%40mail.gmail.com.
