On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 7:41:43 PM UTC-5, Pierz wrote:
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> On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 8:58:49 PM UTC+10, telmo wrote:
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>> I have the utmost respect and interest in Physics, but I think that 
>> contemporary physicists suffer from the problem of having convinced 
>> themselves that their field, and their filed alone, can produce "the 
>> correct lens". Most scientific fields have a lot to learn from Physics when 
>> it comes to rigor, but at the same time physicists underestimate how much 
>> easier it is to achieve rigor when you are dealing with very low levels of 
>> complexity (as compared to Biology, Psychology, Sociology and so on).
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> Yes exactly. It really needs to be pointed out that we can only barely 
> calculate the states of the simplest atoms, using all the supercomputers 
> available to us! Yet the successful analysis of these isolated, microscopic 
> physical systems is supposed to convince us that we understand all of 
> physical reality "in principle"? This laughable idea that we live in a 
> computer simulation of some advanced civilization - when we can't even 
> simulate a single fucking oxygen atom?! We sure are clever apes, but it's 
> even more impressive how impressed we are with ourselves.  
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Wow. Both of these are wonderfully stated!

@philipthrift

 

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