Hi, Is it not how evolution is working ? By iteration and random modification, new better organisms come to existence ?
Why AI could not use iterating evolution to make better and better AI ? Also if *we build* a real AGI, isn't it the same thing ? Wouldn't we have built a better, smarter version of us ? The AI surely would be able to build another one and by iterating, a better one. What's wrong with this ? Quentin Le ven. 12 juil. 2019 à 06:28, Terren Suydam <terren.suy...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Sure, but that's not the "FOOM" scenario, in which an AI modifies its own > source code, gets smarter, and with the increase in intelligence, is able > to make yet more modifications to its own source code, and so on, until its > intelligence far outstrips its previous capabilities before the recursive > self-improvement began. It's hypothesized that such a process could take an > astonishingly short amount of time, thus "FOOM". See > https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/AI_takeoff#Hard_takeoff for more. > > My point was that the inherent limitation of a mind to understand itself > completely, makes the FOOM scenario less likely. An AI would be forced to > model its own cognitive apparatus in a necessarily incomplete way. It might > still be possible to improve itself using these incomplete models, but > there would always be some uncertainty. > > Another more minor objection is that the FOOM scenario also selects for > AIs that become massively competent at self-improvement, but it's not clear > whether this selected-for intelligence is merely a narrow competence, or > translates generally to other domains of interest. > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 2:56 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> Advances in intelligence can just be gaining more factual knowledge, >> knowing more mathematics, using faster algorithms, etc. None of that is >> barred by not being able to model oneself. >> >> Brent >> >> On 7/11/2019 11:41 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >> > Similarly, one can never completely understand one's own mind, for it >> > would take a bigger mind than one has to do so. This, I believe, is >> > the best argument against the runaway-intelligence scenarios in which >> > sufficiently advanced AIs recursively improve their own code to >> > achieve ever increasing advances in intelligence. >> > >> > Terren >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/304332c1-13a6-7006-651b-494e468eefc4%40verizon.net >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA9xK%3DibZqo%3DxQcqSVZXjTu3pnAiTvRLF_8-LHVRth8F_w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMy3ZA9xK%3DibZqo%3DxQcqSVZXjTu3pnAiTvRLF_8-LHVRth8F_w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kAoZrj4nXJ_EFCCSupSOWP_ows52ECR3w3zLBrNg8UDsyg%40mail.gmail.com.
