On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 10:57:51 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:28 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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>>>> > When you have a Turing universal machinery, you have a Turing 
>> machine,
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> You don't unless the machine is made of matter and isn't just printed on 
> the pages of a textbook.
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> > *I guess you mean “a real Turing machine”,*
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> I mean a Physical Turing Machine.
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> *> but invoking “real” is not better than invoking God*
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> That would be true if God could make calculations but there is precisely 
> zero evidence He can even add 2+2, however there is overwhelming evidence 
> that a Physical Turing Machine can. Therefore a Physical Turing Machine is 
> astronomically less unreal than God. 
>
>  John K Clark
>




*The Only Working Turing Machine There Ever Was, Probably*

The TOWTMTEWP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Hj5x6OWTM

In 1936, Alan Turing wrote about a theoretical universal computer now 
referred to as a "Turing Machine." *In 1972, Washington University 
professors Wesley Clark and Bob Arnzen likely made the first physical 
version of Turing's machine.* Clark used the TOWTMTEWP ("The Only Working 
Turing Machine There Ever Was, Probably") as an educational tool, 
demonstrating basic computer theory for his students.

@philipthrift 

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