On 8/7/2019 2:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 7 Aug 2019, at 00:37, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 4:00 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On 8/6/2019 6:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
    If the QC does its task effectively, the output basis qbits
    will be put into definite states,

    Relatively to the observer, but in the global state, the
    observer will inherit the superposition state, by linearity of
    the tensor products and of the evolution.

    In something like Shor's algorithm there is only one final state
    with non-vanishing probability.


Exactly. So there are no other components in superposition. Bruno wants to characterize this  as a collapse. But without this happening, the QC would be unreliable -- there would be some finite probability that you would get the wrong result. As I understand it, there are some QC algorithms that do not lead to definite results, so you have to run them several times to reduce the probability of a wrong answer to some acceptable level.

As usual, Bruno is introducing irrelevancies in order to distract attention from the fact that he cannot answer the central contention of my argument -- which is that quantum computer do not provide any evidence for the existence of parallel worlds. They can work perfectly well in just one world -- without any collapse whatsoever.


I can’t explain even just the two slits without superposition. “Parallel worlds/histories” are just a popular name to describe a superposition. Then nothing in the QM linear evolution can explain how the superposition disappear, although the decoherence theory explain why it is hard to see a macro-superposition. Shor algorithm does not make them disappear, even if it manages to get the result with high probability in the branch we are situated in.

It gets the result with the same high probability (/and by the same means/) that a classical computer, or a mathematician with pencil and paper get the answer.

Brent

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