On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:22 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Friday, August 9, 2019, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:59 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> What role do you see decoherence playing in consciousness? In other >>> words, could you explain why shedding IR photons into an external >>> environment necessary for the mind to be conscious? >>> >> >> Consciousness is a classical phenomenon since the brain is a classical >> object (not in a state of quantum coherence). So decoherence, and the >> emergence of the classical from the quantum, is essential for >> consciousness. Just as to be conscious is to be conscious of something, >> such as the external world. >> >> > You appear to be extrapolating a causation from the appearance of a > correlation: > "The brain is classical, and the brain is conscious, therefore all > consciousness must be classical." > > The conclusion doesn't follow from the premise. > Show me consciousness that does not involve decohered classical matter, such as in a brain. > Also, is a brain really conscious of the external world, or is it > conscious of it's internal states? The redness of a red apple does not > exist physically. Redness is an invention of the brain, which cannot be > found in the external world of colorless particles. > But the physical world does contain photons of various wavelengths -- which correspond to different colours. Correlation does not necessarily indicate causation, but scientific study does reveal the underlying relations between things. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLQWMX%3D5YLZyifHO75YqbTSnWY20ZXXQnX1ZF_5qvbryvg%40mail.gmail.com.
