On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 2:37:52 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 3 Sep 2019, at 10:55, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> ... Michael Forrest's paper [ 
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation
>  
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F294721340_God_is_a_Vacuum_Fluctuation&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHhm0WpNzkTvUK88_53m8kvdDlVuw>
>  ] 
> should have related something more naturally plausible:
>
> *cosmopsychism*
>    - 
> https://aeon.co/essays/cosmopsychism-explains-why-the-universe-is-fine-tuned-for-life
>
> At least we know *consciousness* exists in at least one place
> (inside our skulls, though there are deniers)
>     - https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/
>
> but no evidence of *God* has ever been observed.
>
>
> It does not make sense to say that my consciousness is located in my 
> skull, no more than to say that the number 2 is in my fridge, even if 
> exactly two bottles of fresh water is there.
>
> Then, how do you define God? I agree that there is no evidence for Santa 
> Klaus, but I would say that with the original conception of God given by 
> Plato (which is simply the fundamental truth, with the insight that it is 
> above us), there are some evidence, ...making it for me the second thing 
> close to the indubitable.
>
> Now, I do think that there are no evidences for a primary physical 
> universe. And there are evidence that it does not exist: mainly that it can 
> be proven that that it is incompatible with Mechanism, for which we do have 
> evidences, like the evidence for evolution, molecular biology, or the 
> computability of all known Lagrangian or Hamiltonian (quantum or not).
>
> Bruno
>


There is arguably arithmetical/mathematical language hidden in natural 
things, but it is certainly in brains (as a human invention).

@philipthrift

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