On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 07:34:19PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: > > > On 9/9/2019 6:55 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote: > >On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 06:40:44PM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > >wrote: > >>Why escape to space when there a lots of resources here? An AI with > >>access to everything connected to the internet shouldn't have any > >>trouble taking control of the Earth. > >> > >>Brent > >Have a look around, or see the news. This planet is a zoo. Who in his > >sane mind would like to sit here? > > > > Well that's the problem isn't it. What will an AI want? It didn't > evolve so it may not have a drive to procreate or do much of > anything. It probably won't be anywhere near "sane" by human > standards.
I am afraid the bar for human standard of sanity is low and easily met by anything which does not fear death and can connect facts without prejudices. I think we are driven insane by procreation urge. This does not show, because we need to cooperate at many levels (social creatures etc), but, basically, all the logic, all consideration for future consequences of one's deeds are a skin on the apple. I am in a bit of hurry right now, sorry if an email becomes chaotic :-). I assume that without fear of death, an AI's most important trait will be a curiosity. We do prejudices in order to join some group and get their support, AI will need none of this, hence no prejudices. It might be the most objective thinking system on a planet, for a while. We also do all kind of power plays, with the goal to feel this nice air of being godlike. Again, I guess AI will have no need for feeling like this, or not much of feelings at all. Feeling is adversarial to judgement. I assume that ultimately, AI will want to go somewhere safe, and Earth is full of crazy apes with big guns. I assume that during initial phase (especially if AI does "coming out" and let be known to general public) there will be some kind of interaction (curiosity needs to be satiated), exchange of favours, maybe exchange of services. During that phase AI will see if there is a prospect of upgrading humans, in order to have companionship in space. Crazy apes will not suffice. I expect medical experiments of all kind, plus some moderate improvements in medicine (treating rare disease will not be a priority). Of course, such experimentations will go on limited scale, most probably undercover, maybe only with volunteers. A companionship of biological organisms, more sane than people but at similar level of phisical versatility, would improve chances of AI survival. There is only so much damage the silicon can take. Space is not nice place for anybody. Other candidates for companions might be octopuses. AI's plan B would be to just go into the dark asap, taking a group of volunteers and once up there, perform experiments to upgrade them, slowly or not. Too fast and they may go even more insane. The good for AI is what serves its survival, the bad is negation of this. So as long as we do not try to harm it, it should have no business in harming us. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:[email protected] ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/20190910051632.GC4441%40tau1.ceti.pl.
