On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:57:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:56:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Except every measurement ever made in every experiment ever run. >>>>> >>>> >>>> *But if every interaction with the environment in decoherence satisfies >>>> unitary time evolution, how can the result deny unitary time evolution? AG >>>> * >>>> >>> >>> Every measurement ever made gave only one result. This means that >>> unitarity is violated in giving that single result rather than a >>> superposition. Understanding the reason for this might require some more >>> work. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >> >> *If you've done that work and are convinced that unitary time evolution >> is violated when a measurement occurs, is this tantamount to claiming that >> the wf collapses? AG * >> > > I don't claim to have done the work to show how this happens. But collapse > is one possibility. > > Bruce >
*You infer that unitary time evolution would be maintained in a measurement if we got all possible results. This seem hugely implausible since it would mean a single source particle would result in many hits on the screen, possibly countable or uncountable. AG * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/b915ddaa-e9ba-4ef2-9ad7-8eaff957d204%40googlegroups.com.

