On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 11:05 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/26/2019 5:16 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lawrence Crowell < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>> it? >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he >> coauthored with Sebbens. I know what he has done. I am definitely agnostic >> about MWI as I am with all interpretations. Carroll and Sebens has though >> opened the door to a relationship between the Born rule and MWI, and I >> suspect quantum interpretations in general. Now that is something I find >> potentially very interesting. >> > > Have you seen Adrian Kent's critique of the Carroll-Sebens paper? > > http://arxiv.org/abs/1408.1944 > > > I didn't find much force in Kent's criticism that it doesn't make sense > for the observer to be split before he observes the result(s). According > to decoherence the whole environment is split in nano seconds by > entanglement with the instrument...so why not the observer. Then his > observation is an essentially classical interaction with the instrument > that changes the configuration of his brain that produces the correlated > conscious belief. > Yes, bu Carroll's argument depends on the observer's self-location uncertainty in the split second between the interaction and the decoherence stream reaching him, or his consciousness. I don't really like the idea that Carrol re-introduces the observer in an essential way into a theory that is supposed to get rid of all reference to observers. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLQtrUMSYF8t2xhBeLLYARJbrSF5jBQZJmO0%2B6RB6p3hAw%40mail.gmail.com.

