On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2019 6:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:52:03 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> > I've argued this before, but it's worth stating again. It's a >>> > misintepretation of superposition to claim that a system described by >>> > it, is in all the component states simultaneously. As is easily seen >>> > in ordinary vector space, an arbitrary vector has an uncountable >>> > number of different representations. Thus, to claim it is in some >>> > specific set of component states simultaneously, makes no sense. Thus >>> > evaporates a key "mystery" of quantum theory, inclusive of S's cat and >>> > Everett's many worlds. AG >>> >>> No. It changes the problem to the question of why there are preferred >>> bases. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> Who chose Alive and Dead, or Awake and Sleeping for the S. cat? Wasn't it >> the observer? Since they had other choices, my claim stands. AG >> > > > The devil cat is in the experimental details ... > > *Path integral approach on Schrodinger's cat* > Zinkoo Yun > Department of Physics and Astronomy University of Victoria, Canada > https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.8020 > > "the two conditional paths in Schrodinger’s cat experiment do not > interfere with each other. So there is no phase effect between them thus no > quantum superposition between |dead> and |alive>" > > > It just begs the question of basis by assuming the initial and final > states. > > Brent >
The "cat" paper by Yun seems to be the way probabilities are calculated in "real path" quantum theory. Path Integrals and Reality Adrian Kent https://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.6565.pdf @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ed017fbd-b338-4ea3-aede-9126d0a728c3%40googlegroups.com.
