On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:32:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 10/9/2019 6:26 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 5:52:03 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:28:38 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/8/2019 9:20 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> > I've argued this before, but it's worth stating again. It's a >>> > misintepretation of superposition to claim that a system described by >>> > it, is in all the component states simultaneously. As is easily seen >>> > in ordinary vector space, an arbitrary vector has an uncountable >>> > number of different representations. Thus, to claim it is in some >>> > specific set of component states simultaneously, makes no sense. Thus >>> > evaporates a key "mystery" of quantum theory, inclusive of S's cat and >>> > Everett's many worlds. AG >>> >>> No. It changes the problem to the question of why there are preferred >>> bases. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> Who chose Alive and Dead, or Awake and Sleeping for the S. cat? Wasn't it >> the observer? Since they had other choices, my claim stands. AG >> > > > The devil cat is in the experimental details ... > > *Path integral approach on Schrodinger's cat* > Zinkoo Yun > Department of Physics and Astronomy University of Victoria, Canada > https://arxiv.org/abs/1310.8020 > > "the two conditional paths in Schrodinger’s cat experiment do not > interfere with each other. So there is no phase effect between them thus no > quantum superposition between |dead> and |alive>" > > > It just begs the question of basis by assuming the initial and final > states. > > Brent >
The "cat" paper by Yun seems to be the way probabilities are calculated in "real path" quantum theory. Path Integrals and Reality Adrian Kent https://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.6565.pdf @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ed017fbd-b338-4ea3-aede-9126d0a728c3%40googlegroups.com.
