On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 9:20:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 11 Oct 2019, at 01:23, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > On 10/6/2019 3:03 AM, smitra wrote: > > > And with finite information in the universe there is not distinction > between recurrences and hence there are no recurrences. > > > Yes, but there will also be imperfect recurrences where the difference > will go unnoticed for an observer until a measurement is made. You can then > have an effective splitting in single world collapse theories. and each > outcome will have a certain probability that corresponds to the relative > frequency at which different outcomes will occur in a large time period. > > > What does "effective splitting in single world collapse" mean? Sounds > like classical probability due to ignorance...except that's NOT splitting. > > > > It is differentiating. > > Imagine the WM-duplication, or better here, a guy who is duplicated in two > virtual rooms, numerically identical, except for a close virtual envelop > with a paper containing 1 (written on a paper) in room 1 and 2 in room 2. > > If the person there does not open the envelop, we can fuse them again, and > nothing special happened. It one consciousness flux, like if no duplication > occurred. > But if the guy open the envelop and read what is on the paper, then the > consciousness flux differentiates. > > For the measure on the histories, the rule is graphically sum up by the > diagram: > > Y = II > > The differentiation in the future separate the past, and it allows the > elimination of the splitting. The real diagram are provided by the Kripke > semantic, or other semantic for the modal logic of self-reference (and its > intensional variants), where we should get something like the Feynman > diagrams for the histories and sub-histories. > > Like you say: it is classical probabilities, from a relative first person > perspective, localised in a mathematically sophisticated structure. The > many-worlds of the universal wave seems to confirm the many-computations of > elementary arithmetic. This one has the Gödel-Löb-Solovay “theology” > capable of distinguishing quanta (knowable, observable and sharable) from > qualia (knowable, observable, but not sharable). > > Bruno > > > Many Words is Gödel-Löb-Solovay “theology.
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