> On 14 Oct 2019, at 20:28, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 10/14/2019 7:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 11 Oct 2019, at 01:23, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10/6/2019 3:03 AM, smitra wrote: >>>>> >>>>> And with finite information in the universe there is not distinction >>>>> between recurrences and hence there are no recurrences. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, but there will also be imperfect recurrences where the difference >>>> will go unnoticed for an observer until a measurement is made. You can >>>> then have an effective splitting in single world collapse theories. and >>>> each outcome will have a certain probability that corresponds to the >>>> relative frequency at which different outcomes will occur in a large time >>>> period. >>> >>> What does "effective splitting in single world collapse" mean? Sounds like >>> classical probability due to ignorance...except that's NOT splitting. >> >> >> It is differentiating. >> >> Imagine the WM-duplication, or better here, a guy who is duplicated in two >> virtual rooms, numerically identical, except for a close virtual envelop >> with a paper containing 1 (written on a paper) in room 1 and 2 in room 2. >> >> If the person there does not open the envelop, we can fuse them again, and >> nothing special happened. It one consciousness flux, like if no duplication >> occurred. >> But if the guy open the envelop and read what is on the paper, then the >> consciousness flux differentiates. > > Which is the QBist interpretation of QM.
Cool! If you have a best link on QBism, I might be interested (but I might ask again later, as I have not much time to do research right now). Bruno > > Brent > >> >> For the measure on the histories, the rule is graphically sum up by the >> diagram: >> >> Y = II >> >> The differentiation in the future separate the past, and it allows the >> elimination of the splitting. The real diagram are provided by the Kripke >> semantic, or other semantic for the modal logic of self-reference (and its >> intensional variants), where we should get something like the Feynman >> diagrams for the histories and sub-histories. >> >> Like you say: it is classical probabilities, from a relative first person >> perspective, localised in a mathematically sophisticated structure. The >> many-worlds of the universal wave seems to confirm the many-computations of >> elementary arithmetic. This one has the Gödel-Löb-Solovay “theology” capable >> of distinguishing quanta (knowable, observable and sharable) from qualia >> (knowable, observable, but not sharable). >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Brent >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/98111518-61e8-771e-b1ea-40f2a58b1735%40verizon.net >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/98111518-61e8-771e-b1ea-40f2a58b1735%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/012B07A5-0158-4B09-AACF-A144D102B861%40ulb.ac.be >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/012B07A5-0158-4B09-AACF-A144D102B861%40ulb.ac.be?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/16c12dfe-7b81-4447-90d4-6f8617048e7c%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/16c12dfe-7b81-4447-90d4-6f8617048e7c%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/082E0A0F-81EB-4AF9-9621-17441771F4C8%40ulb.ac.be.
