On 1/23/2020 2:40 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 9:03:55 PM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote:



    On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 8:54:37 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:



        On 1/22/2020 6:38 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


        On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 1:34:00 PM UTC-7, Lawrence
        Crowell wrote:

            On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John
            Clark wrote:

                On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 12:06 PM Lawrence Crowell
                <[email protected]> wrote:

                    > /It is then possible to have an expanding
                    accelerated cosmos that is spherically closed./


                So if I keep going I will eventually return to where
                I started even though everything is constantly
                getting more distant from me and is doing so at an
                accelerating rate?

                 John K Clark


            For an accelerated expansion of the sphere there is a
            cosmological horizon that one can't cross. in other
            words, the sphere will keep expanding faster than you can
            ever go. Think of the scene in the movie "/The Shining/"
            with Jack Nicholson where the hotel hallway telescoped
            away faster than he could run.

            LC


        I don't think it depends on acceleration. As long as the
        universe expands, even at a constant rate, at some distance,
        the distance between, say, an Earth observer, and some
        terminal point along a line of sight, will exceed 300,000 km
        (the distance light travels in one second) and points beyond
        that will keep increasing the increment every second,
        creating a cosmological horizon that light cannot cross.

        That's not quite right.  Light can cross it just fine. But a
        photon crossing it toward us, can never reach us. This is how
        the Hubble boundary differs from a black hole event horizon.

        Brent


    Good point. TY. AG


Now I'm not so sure. ISTM, the photons that never reach us, never cross the event horizon. They're emitted in a region receding faster than the SoL, so they can never cross it. AG

Sure they do.  If galaxy Z is at our Hubble boundary, we're at galaxy Z's Hubble boundary.  Does that mean we can't emit a photon toward galaxy Z?

Brent

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