On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 5:12:31 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
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> On 1/28/2020 8:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
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> > Aristotle: Reality is what we see. 
> > Plato: what we see might be the shadow of a simpler reality 
> > (mathematical, musical, theological, …). 
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> > Science is really born from that important platonic doubt. 
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> Nonsense.  Religious mysticism was born from platonic doubt. Science was 
> already born in the school of Thales of Miletus. Aristotle at least 
> believed that observation was a source of knowledg; while platonists 
> depreacted it as illusory shadows of reality.  St Agustine made 
> Platonism Christian and Thomas Aquinas made Aristotleanism Christian, 
> and those two, with the power of the Church behind them dominated 
> Western intellectual thought for nine centuries, known as "The Dark 
> Ages" for a good reason. 
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> Brent 
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As Nietzsche wrote in "The Will to Power", "Plato is the great viaduct of 
corruption." AG

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