> On 1 Feb 2020, at 06:20, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/31/2020 5:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:19, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
>>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/2020 7:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Jan 2020, at 21:01, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/22/2020 7:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2020, at 10:16, Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 18, 2020 at 2:00:23 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/257476/how-did-the-universe-shift-from-dark-matter-dominated-to-dark-energy-dominate/257542#257542
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/257476/how-did-the-universe-shift-from-dark-matter-dominated-to-dark-energy-dominate/257542#257542>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Proof that physics = witchcraft with equations.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe programming (implementing simulations in programs) would be 
>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Note that if Mechanism is correct, the physical reality cannot be 
>>>>>> emulated by a computer. The reason is that if “we” can be emulated by a 
>>>>>> computer, physics has to be reduced into a statistic on *all* 
>>>>>> computations,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why "all".  We can only experience a finite number of 
>>>>> thoughts/feelings/etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For a fraction of a second, maybe. But for more, you need to take into 
>>>> account the infinitely many computations executed in the universal 
>>>> dovetailing (aka the sigma_1 truth).
>>>> 
>>>> Take a universal machinery phi_i. A computation is a sequence phi_u(j)^s 
>>>> with s = 1, 2, 3, …, (s numbers the steps) and for u some universal 
>>>> number. By the fact that all programs recurs infinitely often in the 
>>>> universal dovetailing, + the fact that the first person cannot be aware of 
>>>> the step-time delays of the universal dovetailer, to get the physical 
>>>> (statistical) prediction right, you need to take into account the 
>>>> infinitely many programs running you. The first person dynamical 
>>>> experience is always a statistic on all infinitely many relative 
>>>> computational histories.
>>> 
>>> A statistic on an infinite set can be (and usually is) finite
>> 
>> What does that mean? 
> 
> A statistic is a function whose argument is a data set and whose value is a 
> number, e.g. Average is a statistic.

No problem. But that is not the statistics, just a result in some statistical 
analysis.


> 
>> 
>> You will need some measure on an infinite space to do the math. It will 
>> usually contain a continuum of open set on some non enumerable space.
> 
> I don't need anything.  You're the one who's claiming physics is a statistic.

Is not quantum physics, when use as a prediction tool,  a statistic?

Bruno




> 
> Brent
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> (although it's not clear what "statistic" you mean...or is it just 
>>> metaphor).
>> 
>> It means the same as in the WM duplication, except that your relative  
>> continuation is all computations (including all oracles) going through your 
>> actual state. Cf step 7 of the UDA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>   And if we compute the statistic we can compute our experience.
>> 
>> The net result is not computable, like with a coin in practice, or like with 
>> a quantum coin in both theory and           practice. We can compute the 
>> distribution, but not the outcome per se of the experience.
>> 
>> Bruno
> 
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