> On 21 Feb 2020, at 15:25, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 8:25 AM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com > <mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > how does mechanism reduce the apparent indeterminacy to the computable? > > Determinism doesn't mean every fact is computable.
Determinism is indeed very different from predictability. > We know for certain the first 5 Busy Beaver numbers are 0, 1, 4, 6 and 13, > but after that things get dicey. Someday we *might* be able to prove the 6th > one is 4098 (it can't be smaller) and we know the 7th Busy Beaver number > can't be smaller than 1.29*10^865. And we can prove that even with infinite > computing power nobody will ever be able to know what the 1919'th Busy Beaver > number is, it hasn't been proven but I wouldn't be surprised if the same > thing was true for the 6th. The BB is computable already with the Halting oracle, and thus with the totality oracle, etc. So you need less infinite power for computing the BB than computing if a machine compute a total or a partial computable function. > > > On of the things I seriously dislike about MW, which makes it utterly > > REPELLENT (Steven Weinberg's word), is that there are too many damned > > worlds! > > Repellent is a very emotional word, and I think that's the primary reason MW > didn't become the standard quantum interpretation 50 years ago, it was > rejected for emotional reasons not intelectual ones. But nature is what it is > and doesn't take our delicate sensibilities into account before deciding what > to be. Absolutely. Bruno > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2m501AMz4TdqGuwxokT7vtjb%3DK2n28VhHoH-mrw0CtBw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2m501AMz4TdqGuwxokT7vtjb%3DK2n28VhHoH-mrw0CtBw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/C8F73E67-93FF-4E59-88D2-D9577E21D94A%40ulb.ac.be.