Thanks Telmo,
this thing is way worse than the flu!

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  On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:56 AM, Telmo Menezes<te...@telmomenezes.net> wrote: 
  
#yiv8943505836 p.yiv8943505836MsoNormal, #yiv8943505836 
p.yiv8943505836MsoNoSpacing{margin:0;}Oh man... I am relived to read that you 
are recovering. Hope that you are 100% healthy soon!

Best wishes,
Telmo

On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, at 01:39, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:

This virus is, for some, very serious. I live in one of the first affected 
areas in King County, WA just miles from the epicenter.

My personal anecdotal experience:

My family contracted it, we are in isolation. For my wife and I, it was 
serious, especially for me as it progressed into my lungs. Last weekend was 
terrifying as my condition was rapidly deteriorating and I was struggling to 
breath. My blood oxygen levels -- we have a sensor unit at home -- dropped 
below 90 and my pulse rate, which for me, at rest, is normally around 60 went 
up to above 80. Pleuritis set in and breathing felt like broken glass shards 
were in the bottom of my lungs. At the covid emergency clinic I  went to that 
my provider has setup the doctors were worried and wanted me to go to the 
hospital. It looked like pneumonia might have set in, but x-rays, they took, 
thankfully ruled that out. 

I am slowly recovering and my blood oxygen levels have climbed up out of the 
real danger zone where sepsis can begin occurring. They fluctuate in a band 
between 92-95, and my resting pulse rate has come back down towards 60 again. 
Slowly but surely I am breathing easier and feel my health & life returning. 
The pain from the pleuritis has gone way down as well.

I am lucky to have very good health insurance and to be working for a large 
software company here that has been supportive as I've gone through this 
ordeal.... and to be in a role that is important especially now. The division I 
work for enables enterprises to operate in the cloud by providing a hybrid 
identity service that can protect access to all their on-premises 
applications/services by enabling authentication/authorization from remote 
users through our cloud.

My wife did not get as sick as I did, but we are both suffering fatigue; our 16 
year old daughter probably got this, but hardly felt anything.

For many people this may not be that serious, but others are dying.

Please stay safe and do your part to help hold the transmission rate down in 
order to give our over-taxed medical systems the ability to handle the critical 
load.

Last weekend was terrifying for me at a personal level, as I -- like everyone 
else -- saw thise images of dead bodies piled up in make shift morgues.... 
thinkibg I could be one of them.

-Chris



A single vaccine factory can cost half a billion dollars and 44 vaccines are in 
early stage development, and even after you find one that works and is safe 
you're going to need billions of doses to vaccinate everybody. Because nobody 
else is doing anything Bill Gates picked 7 out of those 44 that he thought were 
most promising and decided to build factories right now for all 7 with full 
knowledge that he will end up wasting billions of dollars. Gates said:

"Even though we’ll end up picking at most two of them, we’re going to fund 
factories for all seven, just so that we don’t waste time in serially saying, 
‘OK, which vaccine works?’ and then building the factory. We can start now by 
building the facilities where these vaccines will be made. Because many of the 
top candidates are made using unique equipment, we’ll have to build facilities 
for each of them, knowing that some won’t get used. Private companies can’t 
take that kind of risk, but the federal government can." 

Gates can take the risk but so can the federal government, and they can do 
things on an even larger scale than he can. And we're not going to get back to 
normal until a vaccine is found and we're mass producing it. The following is 
from an editorial in the March 27 2020 issue of the journal Science:

==
"There is an unprecedented race to develop a vaccine against severe acute 
respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). With at least 44 vaccines in 
early-stage development, what outcome can we expect? Will the first vaccine to 
cross the finish line be the safest and most effective? Or will it be the most 
well-funded vaccines that first become available, or perhaps those using 
vaccine technologies with the fewest regulatory hurdles? The answer could be a 
vaccine that ticks all these boxes. If we want to maximize the chances for 
success, however, and have enough doses to end the coronavirus disease 2019 
(COVID-19) pandemic, current piecemeal efforts won't be enough. If ever there 
was a case for a coordinated global vaccine development effort using a “big 
science” approach, it is now.


There is a strong track record for publicly funded, large-scale scientific 
endeavors that bring together global expertise and resources toward a common 
goal. The Manhattan Project brought about nuclear weapons quickly (although 
with terrible implications for humanity) through an approach that led to 
countless changes in how scientists from many countries work together. The 
Human Genome Project and CERN (the European Organization for Nuclear Research) 
engaged scientists from around the world to drive basic research from their 
home labs through local and virtual teamwork. Taking this big, coordinated 
approach to developing a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine will not only potentially save 
hundreds of thousands of lives, but will also help the world be better prepared 
for the next pandemic.


An initiative of this scale won't be easy. Extraordinary sharing of information 
and resources will be critical, including data on the virus, the various 
vaccine candidates, vaccine adjuvants, cell lines, and manufacturing advances. 
Allowing different efforts to follow their own leads during the early stages 
will take advantage of healthy competition that is vital to the scientific 
endeavor. We must then decide which vaccine candidates warrant further 
exploration purely on the basis of scientific merit. This will require drawing 
on work already supported by many government agencies, independent 
organizations like the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, and 
pharmaceutical and biotech companies to ensure that no potentially important 
candidate vaccines are missed. Only then can we start to narrow in on those 
candidates to be advanced through all clinical trial phases. This shortlist 
also needs to be based on which candidates can be developed, approved, and 
manufactured most efficiently.

Trials need to be carried out in parallel, not sequentially, using adaptive 
trial designs, optimized for speed and tested in different populations—rich and 
developing countries, from children to the elderly—so that we can ultimately 
protect everyone. Because the virus is spreading quickly, testing will be 
needed in communities where we can get answers fast—that means running trials 
anywhere in the world, not just in preset testing locations. Working with 
regulators early in the process will increase the likelihood of rapid 
approvals, and then once approved, a coordinated effort will ensure that 
sufficient quantities are available to all who need the vaccine, not just to 
the highest bidder.

All of this will require substantial funding, which is the big ask of big 
science. Late-stage clinical trials are not cheap, nor is vaccine 
manufacturing. Although new modular manufacturing methods may speed up the 
process and cut costs, a single vaccine facility can cost half a billion 
dollars. Distribution comes at a cost, too. So, to guarantee sufficient 
production of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, incentives are needed to engage 
manufacturers for large-scale capacity. As for dissemination, those 
organizations with experience in global vaccine distribution, like Gavi, will 
be at the ready.

Ideally, this effort would be led by a team with a scientific advisory 
mechanism of the highest quality that could operate under the auspices of the 
World Health Organization (WHO), for example. But none of this will be possible 
without political will and a global commitment from leaders of the G7 and G20 
countries and multilateral organizations, like the WHO and the World Bank. A 
pandemic of this magnitude, affecting so many lives, livelihoods, and 
economies, demands this.

In many ways, COVID-19 is more like the Manhattan Project than other big 
science efforts, not just because it involves the application of science and 
not just in terms of scale, but because it is a global security issue. In the 
race to develop a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, everyone must win."
John K Clark



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