On Saturday, April 25, 2020 at 10:49:13 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:29:02 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:42 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *> how can the EM field contribute anything to the vacuum energy in a >>> region of empty space far away from charged particles? * >> >> >> Because Quantum Mechanics tells us that some things can happen for no >> reason, and because it tells us that the law of conservation of energy can >> be violated, if only for a very short amount of time. So 2 particles with >> opposite charges can briefly pop into existence, and so can electromagnetic >> waves. And we know what Quantum Mechanics is telling us is true because >> it has been experimentally verified to very high precision. >> >> John K Clark >> > > How does QM tell us that conservation of energy can be violated for brief > durations? If you apply the time-energy form of the UP for your proof, > please state the context of your proof, that is, exactly what do E and t > stand for in your proof. TIA, AG >
Also, IMO, QM doesn't tell us that events are uncaused. All it tells us is the probability of some event being measured. Big difference! HOWEVER, you might want to argue that if a cause of a quantum event can be identified, it implies a local hidden variable, which has been shown *not* to exist. Is this what you claim to be able to show? AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/cd3de360-8c33-40e9-9f5b-c429202e93a3%40googlegroups.com.

