> On 12 Jun 2020, at 22:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 6/12/2020 12:56 PM, smitra wrote: >> Yes, the way we do physics assumes QM and statistical effects are due to the >> rules of QM. But in a more general multiverse setting > > Why should we consider such a thing.
Because you need arithmetic to define “digital machine”, but once you have arithmetic you get all computations, and the working first person predictability have to be justified by the self-referential machine abilities. > >> where we consider different laws of physics or different initial conditions, >> the notion of single universes with well defined laws becomes ambiguous. > > Does it? How can there be multiples if there are not singles? That a good point. “Many-universes” is still a simplified notion. There are only relative state in arithmetic. Eventually digital mechanism leads to 0 physical universe, just a web of number’s dreams. > >> Let's assume that consciousness is in general generated by algorithms which >> can be implemented in many different universes with different laws as well >> as in different locations within the same universe where the local >> environments are similar but not exactly the same. Then the algorithm plus >> its local environment > > Algorithm + environment sounds like a category error. Algorithm + primitively physical environment is a category error. We can say that. Bruno > > Brent > >> evolves in each universe according to the laws that apply in each universe. >> But because the conscious agent cannot locate itself in one or the other >> universe, one can now also consider time evolutions involving random jumps >> from one to the other universes. And so the whole notion of fixed universes >> with well defined laws breaks down. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/948ee692-14dc-777c-4de0-6211dc50b412%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/0B5177D4-2A28-4478-8396-18B01129A34C%40ulb.ac.be.
