On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:57:50 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 7/12/2020 11:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> There can be because it's consistent with the equations.  A black hole 
>> doesn't include any matter.  General relativity is non-linear, that's why 
>> there can be non-flat cosmologies that contain no matter.  Of course there 
>> may be some different, better theory in which spacetime can't be curved 
>> without matter...but it seems unlikely since we have good evidence that 
>> gravitational waves exist.
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>> Brent
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> Yes, good evidence that gravitational waves exist, but as far I know 
> they're always associated with material interactions such as collisions of 
> black holes. In the case of EM waves, I'd be more receptive of your claim 
> that they can exist independent of charges and/or currents, but as far as I 
> know there's no evidence of that. AG 
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> But a collision of black holes does NOT involve matter.  Black holes (as 
> far as the theory goes) are purely geometric things, i.e. made of empty 
> space.
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> Brent
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How then does the BH at the center of our galaxy weigh in at 4 million 
solar masses? AG 

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