> On 10 Aug 2020, at 22:25, Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 5:15:55 AM UTC-5 Bruno Marchal wrote: >> On 7 Aug 2020, at 16:19, Philip Thrift <[email protected] >> <applewebdata://A2E5B64C-5290-4C4B-A705-99CA11C8ADA7>> wrote: >> >> https://www.wolframphysics.org/questions/quantum-mechanics/how-does-quantum-entanglement-occur-in-your-models/ >> >> <https://www.wolframphysics.org/questions/quantum-mechanics/how-does-quantum-entanglement-occur-in-your-models/> >> : >> >> Q. How does quantum entanglement occur in your models? >> A. Two global Wolfram model states are said to be “entangled” if they share >> a common ancestor in the multiway evolution graph. Since spacelike-locality >> is not a necessary condition for branchlike-locality, it is possible for >> these states to be causally connected (i.e. to be connected in the multiway >> causal graph) even if they are not spatially local. This is the essence of >> quantum entanglement as it occurs, for instance, in the context of Bell’s >> theorem. >> >> > > If that graph structure is the correct explanation of the entanglement, that > graphe structure must be justified bt the observable-mode of self-reference, > to be able to distinguish what is quanta and what is qualia. > > Bruno > > > I indicated in the above message on Aug 6, 2020, 1:04:48 PM (4 days ago) how > these graphs might pertain to entanglements. This appears somewhat > communsurate with what Wolfram is saying. > > I am not terribly worried about qualia, and at this time tend to shy away > from invoking consciousness in QM.
Where we assume Mechanism/computationalism (i.e.Descartes made mathematically precise through Turing), the quantum is explained from a theory of consciousness. It is the other way around than those who try to explain Consciousness from the quantum. Actually, I found the MW by myself exclusively from mechanism (and amoeba’s observation), but at that time, I thought that I was refuting computationalism. It took me to discover Everett’s paper to realise that the physicists did already suspect that the physical reality might be multiple (which is just obvious with mechanism as long as you are OK that 2+2=4: that is already proved implicitly in Gödel 1931 paper). Here, all you need is the characterisation of consciousness as something true, indubitable, immediately knowable, non provable and non definable (without invoking the notion of “truth”). With this, all introspective machine discover “consciousness”, and the (unique precise physics) which go with it, and thank to the QM-MWI, we got striking confirmation of that physics. It took me 30 years more to get the quantum logic, and normally it is a “type 0” à-la von Neumann quantum logic, from which a unique measure and integral must be derived. Physics becomes a subbranch of the theology/psychology of the universal Turing machine/number. Now, this physics has no reason to replace the empirical physics, but its advantage is that it explain the quanta, the qualia, and their relation. It shows also that in theology or metaphysics, we need to come back to Plato type of theology. The Aristotelian are recovered as local approximation. Bruno > > LC > > >> @philipthrift >> >> On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 6:38:33 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> That might be, but a programming language that has no context with anything >> is not that valuable. At least it is not that valuable to me. My point is >> this seems to connect with concepts of spacetime as built up from large N >> entanglements. >> >> LC >> >> On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 4:17:44 PM UTC-5 [email protected] <> wrote: >> Ultimately this is not really about "theory" (in the usual sense) at all, It >> is about defining a programming library: So it's really in the end a >> programmer's manual. >> >> Wolfram Physics Project Functions >> https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/wolframphysics/Tools/guide-page >> <https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/wolframphysics/Tools/guide-page> >> >> Hands-On Introduction to the Wolfram Physics Project >> https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/wolframphysics/Tools/hands-on-introduction-to-the-wolfram-physics-project.nb >> >> <https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/wolframphysics/Tools/hands-on-introduction-to-the-wolfram-physics-project.nb> >> >> (an extension of the Wolfram language/ecosystem) >> >> All of general relativity, quantum mechanics, and whatever comes next is to >> be written as programs in this library/language. >> >> @philipthrift > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/324c39f9-6bd4-42da-bcb4-bc01c6091c9en%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/324c39f9-6bd4-42da-bcb4-bc01c6091c9en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6B417E07-49BF-4658-AECC-5C525C4F7EA7%40ulb.ac.be.
