On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 21:36, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 2:33 AM Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com>
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> > *I am also personally offended that Baggott gives short shrift to
>> superdeterminism.*
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> Don't worry about it, nobody ever died from being offended.
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> > *He either mistakenly or accidentally leaves the reader with the
>> impression that these have been ruled out for good, which is most
>> definitely not the case.*
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> Nobody will ever be able to prove that superdeterminism is untrue, it's
> specifically engineered in such a way to make sure that could never happen,
> but it is certainly possible to prove that superdeterminism is silly. It
> says that in order for the world to be the way it appears to be now the
> initial conditions of the universe 13.8 billion years ago MUST have been in
> one and only one SUPER specific starting condition,
>

Isn’t that just determinism?

and in science the more assumptions you have to make in order for your
> theory to work the less valuable it is, and it's impossible to imagine a
> theory about anything that needs more assumptions to work than
> superdeterminism, except perhaps for the God Theory.
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> John K Clark
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