On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:58:12 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote:
> > > On 9/28/2020 5:07 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 1:30:56 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 9/28/2020 9:22 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> The GOP is interested in rushing this through so Don-the-Con t'Rump has a >> 6 to 3 "voting block" on SCOTUS. A point of concern are state legislatures >> overruling the popular vote and appointing Trump electors or simply >> throwing out results. This could well happen in red states that turn blue. >> There could then be states not returning electors or with state >> legislatures that may appoint GOP electors. This would then go to the >> SCOTUS >> >> >> Would it? The Constitution provides that if no candidate gets a majority >> of the electoral votes, then the House will elect the President from among >> the top three receiving electoral votes. In this election each state gets >> one vote...so Repugs would carry the vote. Similarly, the Senate selects a >> Vice President. >> >> I don't see SCOTUS having any part in this and given their make up they >> certainly will have no motive to intervene. >> >> Brent >> > > The drop-dead date for the EC to vote (it never actually meets) is Dec 14, > not Jan 2 when the new congress convenes. The D's would likely prefer the > NEW House to vote for President, even though their electoral victory on Nov > 3 might not be sufficient to defeat Trump). But my point is that the D's > will likely object to the Dec 14 date, and since it's in FEDERAL statutory > law (the first Monday after the second Tuesday in Dec), it will surely > involve the USSC. In response to LC, the original flaw is not in the > American people, but in the flawed document called the Constitution. Our > Founders didn't trust "the People", so they invented the EC to prevent a > popular vote. Soon we will likely be paying the consequences of this flaw. > AG > > > The Founders weren't aiming to prevent a popular vote (of propertied white > males). Their idea was that several states might well put forward a > Presidential candidate and the electoral college would function the way > party conventions used to...with bargaining and vote swapping. The > founders didn't even foresee that the voting structure would force a > two-party system. > >From the shores of a crumbling Europe, given all the biases electoral college and gerrymandering you guys face, it's hard to imagine the self-described gaffe machine as the only candidate with "appeal" to the broad middle class. I use quotes because appeal seems too strong: Biden, even with the heartbreaking family histories, narratives of perseverance, and middle class origins doesn't convey a hint of euphoria. If people vote for him, it's because he's the lesser evil rather than someone that inspires folks. Every time I see him grab the microphone, I cross my fingers for him to complete the sentence and look coherent, and although he may have a history as being proficient at debates and dealing with international dictators, the prospect of him debating Trump doesn't inspire confidence; especially given his performance at the democratic debates. Obama's speech on Trump recently had the kind of rhetoric, tone, and charisma that won US voters over. We shall see, but Covid allowed Biden to be spared from campaigning, which could be positive or negative. More than 200.000 US citizens have lost their lives due to Covid infections in the last 6 months, the economy has close to 14 million folks without jobs, comparable to great depression stats, renewed protests due to Breonna Taylor, and right wing militias preparing takeover scenarios and arming themselves accordingly. Between June and August more than 6 million in gun sales have been documented. Add to all this the statements of late: "If I win, fine. If not, I'll delegitimize the result." and these weeks seem kind of like watching a car crash, where you don't want to look but you have to. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/cc38dbe9-2021-4741-9007-44e3ee31452fn%40googlegroups.com.
