And we, and the biosphere, could exist without the universe being fine-tuned for us, IF there were a God who do miracles.  A miracle would be evidence for such a God.  So fine-tuning=no-miracle cannot be evidence for a God.  The same facts cannot be evidence both for and against a proposition.

So for fine-tuning to count as evidence for some creator, it has to be a creator who is limited by natural laws, e.g. some super-alien engineers.  Not  a god.

Brent

On 10/4/2020 5:29 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:44 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    /Journal of Theoretical Biology/
    /Volume 501, 21 September 2020/
    */Using statistical methods to model the fine-tuning of molecular
    machines and systems/*
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519320302071


    / A science  journal publishes an article supporting Intelligent
    Design./


I don't see how. If the universe really is fine-tuned (a very big if) then an explanation for that fine-tuning needs to be found, but the God Hypothesis is a very poor explanation for two reasons.

1) It does not say or even give a hint as to how God created the universe.
2) It does not say or even give a hint as to how God came into existence other than to say He has always existed, but if you're  going to do that you might as well just say the universe always existed and save a step.

It seems to me that when a mystery is found, and Science has plenty, a good honest "I don't know" would be a better response to it than offering a theory that is obviously silly.

John K Clark
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