It doesn't really infer anything because it leaves "specificity" as a kind of I'll-know-it-when-I-see-it free parameter.

Brent

On 10/4/2020 12:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:

I think the key thing - from the fact this article was published (in a "reputable" science journal)  - is it provides an example (not a good example to follow, but others likely will) of how statistical (in particular, Bayesian) arguments can be used to deduce "design" (in effect, reject Darwinism),-  in the way this article formulates it in its probability model.

@philipthrift

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-5 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

    On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 7:30:15 AM UTC-5 [email protected]
    wrote:

        On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:44 AM Philip Thrift
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            /Journal of Theoretical Biology/
            /Volume 501, 21 September 2020/
            */Using statistical methods to model the fine-tuning of
            molecular machines and systems/*
            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022519320302071


            / A science journal publishes an article supporting
            Intelligent Design./


        I don't see how. If the universe really is fine-tuned (a very
        big if) then an explanation for that fine-tuning needs to be
        found, but the God Hypothesis is a very poor explanation for
        two reasons.

        1) It does not say or even give a hint as to how God created
        the universe.
        2) It does not say or even give a hint as to how God came into
        existence other than to say He has always existed, but if
        you're  going to do that you might as well just say the
        universe always existed and save a step.

        It seems to me that when a mystery is found, and Science has
        plenty, a good honest "I don't know" would be a better
        response to it than offering a theory that is obviously silly.

        John K Clark


    The issue is whether fine tuning means a fine tuner. A fine tuner
    is a necessary condition, but probably not sufficient. In the
    multiverse setting there may be a vast array of cosmologies and
    one could argue that just as Earth is one of many planets with the
    right conditions for life, this cosmology is in a Goldilocks
    situation. It is also possible I think that many of these other
    cosmologies are off-shell conditions in a cosmological path
    integral. Cosmologies with larger vacuum energy densities may not
    be physically real, but quantum amplitudes off-shell from a
    physical cosmology. This may reduce the number of actual physical
    cosmologies, and that could mean just one. In this second
    situation there is some condition in the structure of quantum
    cosmology that selects exclusively for this cosmology.

    LC

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