On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 2:07:59 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:48 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> *> John Clark has focused on Orange Man's bad behavior in spreading Wuhan, 
>> and masks, or something like that. However, even though Joe in his 
>> commercials promised to do better than what orange has done, *
>
>
> If he had done nothing else at least if Joe Biden had been president he 
> wouldn't have turned mask wearing into part of the idiotic culture wars, 
> and that alone would've save at least a hundred thousand American lives 
> and prevented millions of people from getting very sick.  
>
> *> I cannot see any science in this claim. *
>
>
> The only claim Biden needs to make is that he will listen to what the 
> scientist say and not Inflame his zombie followers to make death threats 
> against professional epidemiologists.  
>
> *> Here, and I just stumbled upon it, is a Reuters article about Germany,*
>
>
> OK let's compare the two countries. Germany has had 4,432 cases of 
> COVID-19 per million inhabitants, the USA had 24,332. Germany has had 118 
> deaths per million inhabitants from COVID-19, the USA has had 678.
>  
>
>> *> the funded communists like BLM* [...]
>>
>
> Communists? You're still worried about communists? Hey, it's 2020 not 
> 1951! I never like communists and I never like Vikings either but being an 
> anti-communist today is a bit like being an anti-Viking, it's just not 
> relevant. And I don't see why communists would mind having the police beat 
> up and kill people, they certainly never hesitated to do it back in the 
> days when communists actually ran countries. Like them you also don't seem 
> to have any problem with the police doing the bidding of a wannabe dictator 
> and murdering people, so does that mean you're a communist? 
>
> > *what** is everyone doing wrong?*
>
>
> You tell me, tell me what Formosa (Taiwan) is doing wrong! It seems to me 
> Formosa, a country of 24 million people, did pretty much everything right 
> because it is far closer to China where this all started than the USA is 
> and yet Formosa only experienced 7 deaths from the entire COVID-19 
> epidemic. By contrast as of today at 18:59 GMT the USA has 
> experienced 224,967 deaths. The difference is Formosa's leader is not an 
> imbecile, the USA's leader is. 
>
>   John K Clark
>

Even in the 1950s the fear over an "international communist conspiracy" was 
overblown. I worked in the late 80s with the intelligence community with 
orbital dynamics of "black birds" and other things. I learned a number of 
things, and in a sense "read between the lines." Much of the cold war was 
faked, and much of it was to make money. That we had a massive nuclear arms 
race had far less to do with any real communist conspiracy to take over the 
world than it did about huge profits by the big aerospace and armaments 
industries. The current panic buttons being pushed have similar qualities. 
This is not to say I think developments of Russian nonballistic missiles or 
Chinese developments should be ignored or waved off. However, we should 
also avoid going crazy over things. Further, calling democrats communists 
is the same insane nonsense seen in Kubrick's Gen. Ripper of *Dr. 
Strangelove*.

LC 

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