Orange dude is funding so much stuff now, that from a research point of view he 
is flooding pharma and especially academia with research grant$. On the other 
hand, treating scientists who politicize their own work is something I 
personally hate. My contention is, that it doesn't matter of one is a cutting 
edge physicist, but if their politics corrupts their research, they need to 
spotlighted. I have seen this in action with climate scientists, many of whom 
have claimed that there is too late to do anything, and I tell you I have read 
this. These climatologists appear to me to want governmental control, of which 
they become a part of, to dominate the rest of us-in order to save the "earth." 
What is my fix for climate? Glad you asked. I would go bigtime via solar, (if 
possible) windpower at sea (if possible) and safer uranium and thorium fission 
(if possible), and also if the MIT SPARC or Lattice fusion, or Heirich Hora's 
lasers, or-anything that works well, and provides the abundance that humanity 
needs. Politicized scientists often lead to gene/race fanatics, or Lysenko, or 
Mao's Great Leap Forward 1958-60, which killed 45 million Han. The birds 
insects crop thing. 
"Ok genius, what about abortion!" I'd change abortion practices to this (if 
possible) 
-https://www.tue.nl/en/research/research-groups/cardiovascular-biomechanics/artificial-womb/

Covid? Looks like we might be more successful with treatment of covid in live 
patients then a vaccine, but that is just my guess. 
Those who choose politics over science have some other game in mind as in the 
statement from former mayor of Chicago and Obama's chief spokesman Rahm 
Emanuel: "Never let a good crisis go to waste." Meaning screw fixes, lets milk 
this. 



-----Original Message-----
From: PGC <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2020 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: This is the man who says he found Hunter Biden's laptop

That's cheese. 
Any effective plan would be hard to be fully known or articulated for a reason: 
we're still learning about the threat as we move forward, with data being 
interpreted, scrutinized, and evaluated daily in a way that make continuous 
course corrections necessary. People will criticize this as inconsistency and 
"not having a real plan", as you and supreme maniac do. A good plan in 
situations this dynamic with so much risk and unknowns can't be expressed in 
Tweet format for everybody to digest in a second.
But silencing scientists that dare to contradict political narratives that 
normalize doing nothing and raising infection risk is criminal... but it's not 
like that's news. See Lawrence's image concerning corruption. A plan, even a 
vague one, means hope becomes possible. No plan is misanthropic and helpless. 
PGC
On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 12:07:54 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

I feel the US for security and employment reasons, it would be better off 
decoupling from a existentially hostile totalitarian regime, and I presume by 
your statement, you think that as long as Joe and his cohorts get bennies, all 
is well? Do you also believe in Joe's secret and unknown plan for covid as 
well, sans, advances in medical treatment and an effective vaccine? 
Interesting. 

-----Original Message-----
From: PGC <[email protected]>
To: Everything List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2020 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: This is the man who says he found Hunter Biden's laptop

Be that as it may not be, your posts over the years + how the Supreme racist 
tweets, Borat nailed it in 2006:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ghB0mBugww
That's all of Spud's posts and questions, summarized in 4 minutes. PGC    

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:52:14 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

Again, I have never seen QANON, because I unlike you NY Times, don't hold 
"secret sources" as anything close to being true or even existing. Your DNC 
associates (democratic agit-props with a byline) seem to do this a lot with 
their "sources." Now if what you presented is true--I say Peach any politician 
including The Donald, who betrays the US to Xi's Communist Party. Moreover, I 
say the same for your democrat lovelies, who take cash from Xi, or who take 
money from sell-outs like, say Apple's Tim Cook. 
The US middle class has suffered under the regime of globalist presidents who 
have seen the Uigher-murdering Communist Party of China as benign, or 
irrelevant to their own careers. I submit that the world has moved on, not 
because the US politicians have moved on, but because Comrade Xi has decided 
that going to the right of Mao, into say a WW2 Japanese mentality, is a good 
move. You do acknowledge that both Putin and Xi have hypersonic 1st strike 
missiles aimed at the US, or don't you? 


-----Original Message-----
From: John Clark <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2020 9:01 am
Subject: Re: This is the man who says he found Hunter Biden's laptop

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 11:42 PM <[email protected]> wrote:


> The Borat dude years ago did some funny humor. Anyone fooled by Borat is way 
> too trusting.

And that way too trusting man that was fooled by Borat is the same man who says 
he found the laptop in the blind computer repair man's shop, and the same man 
Trump's own intelligence service had warned is a "conduit for Russian 
disinformation". 
> You'll have to present evidence, not a democrat ad hominem attack (per usual) 
> to show show that Joe is not the money-hungriest poli I ever have seen. 

Is that the way the game works now, you have to prove your innocence? Well OK 
then, I have seen no evidence that you are not a Russian agent and part of 
their massive disinformation campaign. Prove to me that you are not! 
And by the way, Biden said in the debate:
"I entered as one of the poorest men in Congress, left one of the poorest men 
in government — in Congress and as vice president" 
Politifact fact checked Biden's statement and their conclusion was "mostly true"
Fact-checking Joe Biden's claim that he was among the poorest in government


> If true, about the China thing, (re Donaldo) 

If? Trump doesn't even deny it, his only defense is basically, "yeah so what, 
doesn't everybody have a secret Chinese bank account and pay more Chinese taxes 
than American taxes and owe 400 million dollars to foriegn actors you refuse to 
name?" 
 > yeah, Russia, China's leaders are an existential threat.

Well duh! There's nothing new in that, that's been true for over half a 
century, but what is new is that there is now for the first time in its history 
an American president that is an existential threat to the US Constitution and 
to it's way of life.  
 > If you feel you have some evidence about Golden man, why not present it?

OK:
Trump maintains secret bank account in China
Trump paid more Chinese taxes than American taxes 
Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China
China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office

China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter

Making Ivanka Trump shoes in a Chinese sweatshop: Long hours, low pay and abuse
Why Does Trump Still Refuse to Criticize Putin?


> Th4 democrats, be they scientists, philosophers, or academics, walk off the 
> map of the land of the rational when it comes to Orange Dude.

In contrast to those silly scientists your QAnon conspiracy theories are models 
of rationality that would make Euclid proud.  
And unlike some I am not ashamed to sign this with my real name, I'm assuming 
it doesn't say "Spudboy100" on your driver's license and is not the name you 
put on your tax returns. 
 John K Clark



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