This thread of posts is really bizarre and borders on some sort of Twilight 
Zone form of madness.

LC

On Saturday, November 21, 2020 at 3:49:26 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:

> Besides being an idiot, what would you guys  a person who is a 
> pragmatist, a militant one, a utilitarian like Jeremy Bentham and John 
> Stuart Mill, and see's engineering (science & technology) as a first go to, 
> in solution of a problem? I consider myself to be this kind of creature, 
> simply because I believe it to yield actual solutions to actual problems. I 
> am less and less troubled by somebody being a racist the older I get, even 
> though my blood relatives went up adolf's chimneys. I am more persuaded by 
> the question is, can he or she look past our own bigotry and hatreds, to 
> come to a deal that would alleviate the big problems of today? 
>
> Yeah, I know I don't matter as an individual, but applying utilitarianism 
> seems to produce the best outcomes (medical phrase). So, can we say, for 
> example, that we spend cash on R&D for covid, not because we love each 
> other, but because we can make life (for ourselves and kin) better? Can we, 
> if it is decided as accurate, go big for solar and batteries, if this 
> lightens the climate load and produces abundant electricity??  That kind of 
> thing. My fix for abortion is embryo-fetus transfer since it nows seems 
> workable. This would bypass literally anti-abortionists and pro-abortion 
> thinking. A womb with a view.
>
>
> https://leapsmag.com/artificial-wombs-are-getting-closer-to-reality-for-premature-babies/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Benjamin <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Nov 21, 2020 10:11 am
> Subject: FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
>
>  
>  
> *From:* Philip Benjamin 
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:09 AM
> *Subject:* FW: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
>  
> Philip Benjamin  Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:01 AM 
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [consciousness-online] FW: Awakened (Augustinian) Vs 
> Un-Awakened (pagan, Kundalini) Consciousnesses
> .
> [*S**erge Patlavskiy*] Unlike you, I am not a racist and do not divide 
> people into whites, blacks, or purples. I divide people into those who are 
> able to think rationally and for those who aren't. Persuasion to endorse 
> the results of elections by brute force and by threatening the family 
> members has nothing to do with democracy.
> .
> Kindly,
> Serge
> [*Philip Benjamin*]
> There are obviously “rational” persons, never needing obscenities or 
> peremptory ad hominems (provoked ones are sometimes excusable) which is 
> very much unlike the patented behavior of WAMP-the-Ingrate -- Western 
> Acade-Media Pagan(ism). There are only two kinds of PERSONS.  They are not 
> Liberal/Progressive or Conservative/Traditionalists. Rather they have 
> Awakened (Augustinian) Transformed consciousness or they have Un-awakened, 
> kundalini/reptilian consciousness. One category is pagan and the other 
> non-pagan. Augustine was once a profligate Phoenician pagan (of Greco-Roman 
> roots). According to his CONFESSIONS (autobiography) he was transformed 
> (“accidentally”) by the Scriptures through the Spirit [of Adonai (plural) 
> YHWH (singular) Elohim (uni-plural)] into a non-pagan. That helped him to 
> baptize metaphorical Platonism into Scriptural norms and thus pull the West 
> away from Greco-Roman paganism. He thus became the chief architect (and 
> still remains so) of a civilization that pursued REALITIES, not 
> metaphysical metaphors, which eventually created an atmosphere conducive to 
> modern science and technology, not vice versa. WAMP-the-Ingrate is the 
> beneficiary of that. 
>      While there are no (and cannot be) cultural pagans (only REAL 
> pagans), there are cultural non-pagans who for all practical purposes are 
> Augustinian in their thought forms and behavioral patterns, but not 
> NECESSARILY transformed in the Augustinian sense. The clash today in the 
> Augustinian West in general and the Puritan America in particular is 
> between paganism and non-paganism (real and cultural), not Liberals vs 
> Conservative nor Progressive Vs Traditionalists (which are only 
> manifestations or reflections of paganism and non-paganism.
> *Presuppositional Evidentialist*
> *Philip Benjamin        *
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