Here a schema: [image: image.png] After 3 experiments, you have *8* worlds... each with the memory of the initial experiment, 4 of the 2nd version A and for of the 2nd version B... etc
Every *worlds* has a past which is linked directly with the previous experiment and to the initial experiment... in each world there is an ensemble of 3 results. Quentin Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 13:01, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > I should have been more explicit; since the trials are independent, the > other worlds implied by the MWI for any particular trial, are unrelated to > the other worlds created for any OTHER particular trial. Thus, each other > world has an ensemble with one element, insufficient for the existence of > probabilities. AG > > On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 4:41:57 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > >> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 3:33:52 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 10:05 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> One world contains an Alan Grayson that sees the electron go left, >>>>> another world is absolutely identical in every way except that it contains >>>>> a Alan Grayson that sees the electron go right. So you tell me, which of >>>>> those 2 worlds is "THIS WORLD"? >>>>> >>>> >>>> *> It's the world where a living being can observe the trials being >>>> measured. The other world is in your imagination (if you believe in the >>>> MWI). AG * >>>> >>> >>> From that response I take it you have abandoned your attempt to poke logical >>> holes in the Many Worlds Interpretation and instead have resorted to a >>> pure emotional appeal; namely that there must be a fundamental law of >>> physics that says anything Alan Grayson finds to be odd cannot exist, >>> and Alan Grayson finds many Worlds to be odd. Personally I find Many >>> Worlds to be odd too, although it's the least odd of all the quantum >>> interpretations, however I don't think nature cares very much if you or I >>> approve of it or not. From experimentation it's clear to me that if Many >>> Worlds is not true then something even stranger is. >>> >> >> I have no idea whatsoever, how you reached your conclusions above. There >> are things called laboratories, where physicists conduct experiments, some >> of which are quantum experiments with probabilistic outcomes. The world in >> which such things exist, I call THIS world. Worlds postulated to exist >> based on the claim that any possible measurement, must be a realized >> measurement in another world, I call OTHER worlds. Those OTHER worlds are >> imagined to exist based on the MWI. These are simple facts. I am not making >> any emotional appeals to anything. The possible oddness of the Cosmos is >> not affirmed or denied here. I agree the Cosmos might be odd, possibly very >> odd, but this has nothing to do with our discussion. The core of my >> argument is that since the trial outcomes in quantum experiments are >> independent of one another, there's no reason to claim that each of the >> OTHER worlds accumulates ensembles, as an ensemble is created in THIS >> world. Without ensembles in those OTHER worlds, the MWI fails to affirm the >> existence of probability in any of those OTHER worlds. AG >> >>> >>> See my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/55a83617-d49c-403c-a679-02025441ef6fn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/55a83617-d49c-403c-a679-02025441ef6fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kArbTypwa%3D2df%3D3u8VzSZHEPScF-dYLf8%3DQLtVdBR%2B1q_g%40mail.gmail.com.
